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CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations proudly presents That Said With Michael Zeldin. That Said, is a weekly series that will take a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers will explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country.

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CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations proudly presents That Said With Michael Zeldin. That Said, is a weekly series that will take a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers will explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country.

    A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, And the Rise of the New Republican Party’

    A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, And the Rise of the New Republican Party’

     



    Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Princeton historian, Julian Zelizer, about his book, Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party.



    In Burning Down the House, Zelizer pinpoints the moment when Gingrich began steering our country onto a path of bitter partisanship and ruthless politics — which culminated in the election of Donald Trump. Perhaps more than any other politician, Gingrich introduced the rhetoric and tactics that have shaped the Trump presidency.

    Guest

    Julian E. Zelizer

    Julian E. Zelizer has been one of the pioneers in the revival of American political history. He is the author and editor of 19 books on American political history, including  Taxing America: Wilbur D. Mills, Congress, and the State, 1945-1975—winner of the Ellis Hawley Prize for Best Book on Political History and the D.B. Prize for Best Book on Congress–On Capitol Hill: The Struggle to Reform Congress and its Consequences, 1948-2000, Arsenal of Democracy: The Politics of National Security—From World War II to the War on Terrorism, Jimmy Carter, Conservatives in Power: The Reagan Years, 1981-1989 (co-authored with Meg Jacobs), Governing America: The Revival of Political History and The Fierce Urgency of Now: Lyndon Johnson, Congress, and the Battle for the Great Society, winner of the D.B. Hardeman Prize for Best Book on Congress. In January 2019, Norton will publish his new book, co-authored with Kevin Kruse, entitled Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974. Zelizer is also a frequent commentator in the media. He has published over nine hundred op-eds, including his weekly column on CNN.Com. He has received fellowships from the Brookings Institution, the Guggenheim Foundation, the Russell Sage Foundation, New America, and the New York Historical Society. He has just released,  “Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party” (Penguin Press) and is currently working on his next book, “Abraham Joshua Heschel” (Yale University Press).



    Follow Julian on Twitter: @julianzelizer

    Host

    Michael Zeldin

    Michael Zeldin is a well-known and highly-regarded TV and radio analyst/commentator.



    He has covered many high-profile matters, including the Clinton impeachment proceedings, the Gore v. Bush court challenges, Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation of interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the Trump impeachment proceedings.



    In 2019, Michael was a Resident Fellow at the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, where he taught a study group on Independent Investigations of Presidents.



    Previously, Michael was a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. He also served as Deputy Independent/ Independent Counsel, investigating allegations of tampering with presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s passport files, and as Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives, Foreign Affairs Committee, October Surprise Task Force, investigating the handling of the American hostage situation in Iran.



    Michael is a prolific writer and has published Op-ed pieces for CNN.com, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Hill, The Washington Times, and The Washington Post.



    Follow Michael on Twitter: @michaelzeldin

    • 1 hr 3 min
    A Conversation with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner

    A Conversation with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner

     







     



     

    Event Overview

    Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner as they discuss the legal issues faced by former President Trump and his ecosystem. Topics will include Trump’s attacks on the social media companies which banned him from their platforms, the criminal indictment and continuing investigation of Weisselberg and the Trump Organization by the Manhattan District Attorney’s office and the Department of Justice investigations, and prosecutions of the January 6th insurrections among others. 

    Guests

    Glenn Kirschner, MSNBC Legal Analyst

    Glenn is a former federal prosecutor with 30 years of trial experience.  He served in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia for 24 years, rising to the position of Chief of the Homicide Section.  In that capacity, Glenn supervised 30 homicide prosecutors and oversaw all homicide grand jury investigations and prosecutions in Washington, DC. Prior to joining the DC U.S. Attorney’s Office, Glenn served more than six years on active duty as an Army Judge Advocate General (JAG) prosecutor, trying court-martial cases and handling criminal appeals, including espionage and death penalty cases.



    Glenn tried hundreds of cases in his 30 years as a prosecutor, including more than 50 murder trials, multiple lengthy RICO trials and precedent-setting cases.  His cases have been made into major motion pictures (murder conviction of a sophisticated con man who ran in elite DC circles, subject of upcoming film “Georgetown”, starring Vanessa Redgrave, Christoph Waltz and Annette Bening) and TV documentaries (defendant Andre Burno convicted of the ambush shooting of an on-duty police officer, subject of the Emmy Award-winning HBO documentary, “Thug Life in DC”). Glenn has lectured at Federal Bar Association seminars, judicial conferences and professional association events.  He has presented at the National Advocacy Center on the topic of homicide prosecutions and taught advanced criminal law at George Washington University School of Law as an adjunct faculty member.  He traveled as a Department of Justice representative to address Ukrainian prosecutors and detectives regarding the U.S. Criminal justice system.



    As an Army JAG, Glenn served as prosecutor at Fort Richardson in Anchorage, Alaska, where he handled dozens of court-martial cases and served as legal advisor to Army commanders on criminal justice matters. He then served as an Army appellate attorney at the U.S. Army Legal Services Agency in Falls Church, Virginia, where he handled death penalty and espionage cases, among others.



    Glenn attended Washington & Lee University in Lexington, Virginia and was First-Team All American football player in 1983.  In 1987, he graduated with honors from New England School of Law in Boston, where he was named a Trustee’s Scholar. Glenn has received numerous awards, including: the Harold J. Sullivan Award for Fairness, Ethics and Trial Excellence; the John F. Evans Award for Outstanding Advocacy; the Metropolitan Police Department’s Chief of Police Medal of Honor; the United States Attorney’s Office STAR Award; U.S. Army Meritorious Service Medal; Washington & Lee University Athletic Hall of Fame Inductee; and upcoming induction in September 2018 into the American College of Trial Lawyers.



    Follow Glenn on Twitter: @glennkirschner2

    Asha Rangappa, CNN Legal Analyst

    Asha Rangappa is a Senior Lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs and a former Associate Dean at Yale Law School.



    Prior to her current position, Asha served as a Special Agent in the New York Division of the FBI, specializing in counterintelligence investigations.  Her work involved assessing threats to national security, conducting classified investigations on suspected foreign a...

    • 1 hr 5 min
    A Conversation with Beatriz Williams, Author, ‘Our Woman in Moscow’

    A Conversation with Beatriz Williams, Author, ‘Our Woman in Moscow’

     



    Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Beatriz Williams, author of Our Woman in Moscow,  a historical fiction  of Cold War espionage and family devotion, loosely inspired by the Cambridge spy ring.

    Guest

    Beatriz Williams

    Beatriz Williams is the New York Times, USA Today, and internationally bestselling author of Our Woman in Moscow, The Summer Wives, Her Last Flight, The Golden Hour, The Secret Life of Violet Grant, A Hundred Summers, and several other works of historical fiction, including three novels in collaboration with fellow bestselling authors Karen White and Lauren Willig. A graduate of Stanford University with an MBA in Finance from Columbia University, Beatriz worked as a communications and corporate strategy consultant in New York and London before she turned her attention to writing novels that combine her passion for history with an obsessive devotion to voice and characterization. Beatriz’s books have won numerous awards, have been translated into more than a dozen languages, and appear regularly in bestseller lists around the world.



    Born in Seattle, Washington, Beatriz now lives near the Connecticut shore with her husband and four children, where she divides her time between writing and laundry.



    Follow Beatriz on Twitter: @authorbeatriz

    Host

    Michael Zeldin

    Michael Zeldin is a well-known and highly-regarded TV and radio analyst/commentator.



    He has covered many high-profile matters, including the Clinton impeachment proceedings, the Gore v. Bush court challenges, Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation of interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the Trump impeachment proceedings.



    In 2019, Michael was a Resident Fellow at the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, where he taught a study group on Independent Investigations of Presidents.



    Previously, Michael was a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. He also served as Deputy Independent/ Independent Counsel, investigating allegations of tampering with presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s passport files, and as Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives, Foreign Affairs Committee, October Surprise Task Force, investigating the handling of the American hostage situation in Iran.



    Michael is a prolific writer and has published Op-ed pieces for CNN.com, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Hill, The Washington Times, and The Washington Post.



    Follow Michael on Twitter: @michaelzeldin

    • 1 hr 13 min
    A Conversation with Daniel James Brown, Author, ‘Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II’

    A Conversation with Daniel James Brown, Author, ‘Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II’

     



    Join Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation of anti-Asian racism with Daniel James Brown as they discuss his book, Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II: a compelling saga of patriotism, highlighting the contributions and sacrifices that Japanese Americans and their families made for the sake of the country and the world. 

    Guest

    Daniel James Brown

    I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and attended Diablo Valley College, the University of California at Berkeley, and UCLA. I taught writing at San Jose State University and Stanford before becoming a technical writer and editor. I now write narrative nonfiction books full time. My primary interest as a writer is in bringing compelling historical events to life as vividly and accurately as I can.



    I live in the country outside of Seattle, Washington with my wife, two daughters, and an assortment of cats, dogs, chickens, and honeybees. When I am not writing, I am likely to be birding, gardening, fly fishing, reading American history, or chasing bears away from the bee hives.



    Follow Dan on Twitter: @DJamesBrown



     







     

    Host

    Michael Zeldin

    Michael Zeldin is a well-known and highly-regarded TV and radio analyst/commentator.



    He has covered many high-profile matters, including the Clinton impeachment proceedings, the Gore v. Bush court challenges, Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation of interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the Trump impeachment proceedings.



    In 2019, Michael was a Resident Fellow at the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, where he taught a study group on Independent Investigations of Presidents.



    Previously, Michael was a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. He also served as Deputy Independent/ Independent Counsel, investigating allegations of tampering with presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s passport files, and as Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives, Foreign Affairs Committee, October Surprise Task Force, investigating the handling of the American hostage situation in Iran.



    Michael is a prolific writer and has published Op-ed pieces for CNN.com, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Hill, The Washington Times, and The Washington Post.



    Follow Michael on Twitter: @michaelzeldin

    • 1 hr 12 min
    A Conversation with Don Lemon, CNN Anchor, on His New Book, ‘This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism’

    A Conversation with Don Lemon, CNN Anchor, on His New Book, ‘This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism’

     



    Join Michael Zeldin for this important conversation on race in America with Don Lemon as they discuss his book, This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism. This frank conversation addresses the root causes of systemic racism and the steps that must be taken to eradicate it: Commitment, forbearance, and hard work.



    In recognition of Juneteenth, CommPRO & The Museum of Public Relations are pleased to share this special episode of That Said With Michael Zeldin podcast.

    Guest

    Don Lemon

    CNN Anchor | Author, "This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism"

    Don Lemon anchors Don Lemon Tonight airing weeknights at 10pm. He also serves as a correspondent across CNN/U.S. programming. Based out of the network's New York bureau, Lemon joined CNN in September 2006. He is a #1 best selling New York Times author of This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism.A news veteran of Chicago, Lemon reported from Chicago in the days leading up to the 2008 presidential election, including an interview with then-Rep. Rahm Emanuel on the day he accepted the position of Chief of Staff for President-elect Barack Obama. He also interviewed Anne Cooper, the 106-year old voter President-elect Obama highlighted in his election night acceptance speech after he had seen Lemon's interview with Cooper on CNN. He has served as moderator for CNN's political town halls, co-moderated first 2020 Democratic Presidential Debate and co-hosted Color of Covid special that addressed the pandemic's impact on communities of color. Lemon served as the network's leading voice guiding viewers through the death of George Floyd and summer of nationwide protests and riots.



    He has reported and anchored on-the-scene for CNN from many breaking news stories, including the Orlando shooting at Pulse Nightclub (2016), Charleston church shooting (2015), death of Freddie Gray while in police custody, the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, MO (2014), the George Zimmerman trial (2013), the Boston marathon bombing (2013), the Philadelphia building collapse (2013),the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting (2012), the Colorado Theater Shooting (2012), the death of Whitney Houston, the Inaugural of the 44th President in Washington, D.C., the death of Michael Jackson (2009), Hurricane Gustav in Louisiana (2008) and the Minneapolis bridge collapse (2007).



    Lemon has also anchored the network's breaking news coverage of the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, the Arab Spring, the death of Osama Bin Laden and Joplin tornado. He reported for CNN's documentary Race and Rage: The Beating of Rodney King, which aired 20 years to the day of the beating. He is also known for holding politicians and public officials accountable in his "No Talking Points" segment.



    He joined CNN after serving as a co-anchor for the 5 p.m. newscast for NBC5 News in Chicago. He joined the station in August 2003 as an anchor and reporter after working in New York as a correspondent for NBC News, The Today Show and NBC Nightly News. In addition to his reporting in New York, Lemon worked as an anchor on Weekend Today and on MSNBC. While at NBC, he covered the explosion of Space Shuttle Columbia, SARS in Canada and numerous other stories of national and global importance.



    In addition to NBC5 and NBC News, Lemon has served as a weekend anchor and general assignment reporter for WCAU-TV, an NBC affiliate in Philadelphia, an anchor and investigative reporter for KTVI-TV in St. Louis and an anchor for WBRC-TV in Birmingham. He began his career at WNYW in New York City as a news assistant while still in college.



    In 2009, Ebony named him as one of the Ebony Power 150: the most influential Blacks in America. He has won an Edward R. Murrow award for his coverage of the capture of the Washington, D.C. snipers. He won an Emmy for a special report on real est...

    • 1 hr
    PART II – A Conversation with Brian Stelter on His Best-Seller, ‘HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth’

    PART II – A Conversation with Brian Stelter on His Best-Seller, ‘HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth’

     



    Join Michael Zeldin for Part II of his interview with CNN anchor and media analyst Brian Stelter on his best-seller, HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth.



    Even before the Trump administration, communicators have long been intrigued by the curious friendship forged by conservative commentators with conservatives in government. But this was the first administration where the friendship is so obvious in its mutual dependence and co-existence.



    In this no-holds-barred discussion, Stelter reveals the surprising genesis of this strange friendship, how it is impacting the relationship, and how Fox News continues to chip away at our concept of Truth.



    Listen to Part I here.

    Guest

    Brian Stelter

    Chief Media Correspondent and Anchor of Reliable Sources

    Brian Stelter is the anchor of “Reliable Sources,” which examines the week’s top media stories every Sunday at 11:00 a.m. ET on CNN/U.S, and the chief media correspondent for CNN Worldwide. Stelter reports for CNN Business, and writes a nightly e-newsletter.



    Prior to joining CNN in November 2013, Stelter was a media reporter at The New York Times. Starting in 2007, he covered television and digital media for the Business Day and Arts section of the newspaper. He was also a lead contributor to the “Media Decoder” blog.



    Stelter published The New York Times best-selling book, “HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth” in fall 2020, which tells the twisted story of the relationship between President Trump and Fox News. Over the course of two years writing the book, Stelter spoke with over 250 current and former Fox insiders in an effort to understand the inner workings of Rupert Murdoch’s multibillion-dollar media empire.



    In 2013, he published The New York Times best-selling book, “Top of the Morning: Inside the Cutthroat World of Morning TV”, about the competitive world of morning news shows. He is a consulting producer on Apple’s drama “The Morning Show,” which is inspired by his book.



    In 2020, Stelter executive produced the HBO Documentary, “After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News,” directed by Andrew Rossi, who featured Stelter in his 2011 documentary, “Page One: Inside the New York Times.” Stelter was also named to Forbes Magazine’s “30 Under 30: Media” for three consecutive years, and Fortune Magazine’s “40 Under 40: Media & Entertainment.”



    In January 2004, while he was a freshman at Towson University in Baltimore, Maryland, Stelter created TV Newser, a blog dedicated to coverage of the television news industry. He sold it to Mediabistro.com in July 2004, but continued to edit and write for the blog during the next three years until he graduated with a bachelor’s degree in Mass Communications with a concentration in Journalism. He is on the board of Baltimore Student Media, a nonprofit that publishes Towson’s independent student newspaper, The Towerlight.

    Host

    Michael Zeldin

    Michael Zeldin is a well-known and highly-regarded TV and radio analyst/commentator.



    He has covered many high-profile matters, including the Clinton impeachment proceedings, the Gore v. Bush court challenges, Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation of interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the Trump impeachment proceedings. 



    In 2019, Michael was a Resident Fellow at the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School, where he taught a study group on Independent Investigations of Presidents.



    Previously, Michael was a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. He also served as Deputy Independent/ Independent Counsel, investigating allegations of tampering with presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s passport files, and as Deputy Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives,

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Interesting guests and analysis!

Really enjoy these podcasts and Michael is an outstanding interviewer and conversationalist.

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That Said

Michael has a very easy to listen to style, very clear and concise. Excellent topics. I try to catch as many of his podcasts as I can.

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That Said — Really Well Done

Good selection of guests and thoughtful and well organized preparation. The perspectives of the guests are elicited in an easy yet rigorous way, and Zeldin strikes just the right balance of speaking and listening, mostly listening. Entertaining and productive.

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