The Typecast: Grow Your Art Business

Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype
  • 5.0 (83)
  • ENTREPRENEURSHIP
  • UPDATED BIWEEKLY

Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sorts—despite what your grandma thinks, we know there’s a whole lot more to what you do than just “drawing pretty pictures.” This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, we’re covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion. And we’re not just doing it alone! We’ll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. We’re big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and we’re even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, we’re gonna type-pun your face off), and don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!

  1. 2D AGO

    What If We Shared Every Tool We Use to Run Our Business? | The Typecast Episode 70

    Send us Fan Mail Ever wonder what’s actually running behind the scenes of a creative business? We’re pulling back the curtain. In this episode, we’re breaking down every tool and platform we use to run Goodtype. From our website and course platform to payroll, bookkeeping, email marketing, and everything in between. We’re keeping it real: what we love, what gives us the sweats (hi, Zapier), and how we built a functional system over time without losing our minds. All that and more when you listen to this episode: Why we use Squarespace for our website How ThriveCart, Stripe, and PayPal all work together for course salesWhat we landed on to host our courses and The KernferenceHow we use Notion to manage everything, and our A/B/C priority systemOur all-day-every-day communication hubThe Adobe Acrobat Spaces features we’re genuinely nerding out overWhat we use to automate and communicate between our different appsOur banking setup Our email marketing breakdownUsing DM automations and scheduling toolsPodcast recording and hosting faves Email inbox management using ShiftOur honest (and very curious) thoughts on AI workflowsMentioned in this episode: Try Acrobat Spaces! https://goodtype.us/acrobat #adSquarespace Kate Christy at Folk FoundedNolan Pelletier ThriveCartCircleOur Notion Dashboard TemplateAdobe Creative CloudZapierNovoBenchGustoKit (formerly ConvertKit)FlodeskManyChatAdobe ExpressMetricoolRiversideConnect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    51 min

  2. APR 14

    What If the World’s Biggest Type Company Could Predict the Next Font Trend? with Tom Foley | The Typecast Episode 69

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sat down with Tom Foley, Executive Creative Director at Monotype–the biggest type company in the world–for a conversation that went way deeper than we planned (in the best possible way). From his family’s legacy of stonemasons and sign painters to his graduate research on Irish typography, Tom gave us an entirely new lens through which to see typography. We also dig into the big questions: what actually makes good type, how type trends work (and why they’re so hard to predict), what Monotype’s research reveals, and where variable fonts are actually landing in the world. All that and more when you listen to this episode: The fascinating origin story of what we now call Irish typeWhat makes good typeWhether design knowledge and historical context make you better or worse at type designWhat Monotype’s research reveals about purchasing habits across generationsWhether giving users more font choice in apps is actually what people want (or need)Type as a deeply human invention–linked to language, identity, and cultureConnect with Tom Foley Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tom_foley_type/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-foley-75062158/  Mentioned in this episode: Monotype https://www.monotype.com/ Monotype’s ReVision Report 2025 https://www.monotype.com/resources/ebook/unlock-report-revision-2025 Montotype’s Report 2024 https://www.monotype.com/resources/ebook/unlock-report-type-trends-2024 What the font https://www.myfonts.com/pages/whatthefont Brethren Brothers https://www.brethrendesignco.com/ Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    1h 6m

  3. MAR 24

    What If Your Side Hustle Paid Your Mortgage? With Adam Vicarel | The Typecast Episode 68

    Send us Fan Mail What does it actually look like to run a thriving creative business? One with branding projects, murals, fonts, and a coffee company in the mix?! In this episode, we’re joined by the endlessly curious and wildly productive Adam Vicarel, who is proof that creative experimentation paired with smart systems can take you a long way. Whether you’re figuring out how to balance creative freedom with financial stability, trying to find the headspace for things that aren’t immediately due, or just wondering if LinkedIn is worth your time, this one’s for you. All that and more when you listen to this episode: How Adam structures his day using the Pomodoro Technique (and why creatives need structure to be creative)The “be everywhere, always” approach to marketing and why it’s really just being authentically top of mindHow to build passive income streams without overthinking them firstFont sales, SEO, and why Adam’s “little turd fonts” now pay his mortgage Why financial stability is the foundation for creative experimentationThe $100k conversation: what it actually means and why it looks different for everyoneBatching content and staying consistent on social mediaRaising rates with confidence: what it signals to clients and why it matters Project management and getting ideas out of your head so they stop taking up space Connect with Adam Vicarel Website: https://www.adamvicarel.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vicarelstudios/ Coffee Company: https://www.instagram.com/allclevelandcoffee/  Mentioned in this episode: Follow Your Art BookPomodoro TechniqueBrethren Design Co.AsanaConnect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    56 min

  4. MAR 10

    What If You Built a Design Studio With No Rules? with Lope Gutiérrez-Ruiz | The Typecast Episode 67

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when a journalist from Venezuela becomes a self-taught designer, typeface foundry founder, and curator of one of the most ambitious graphic design exhibitions in recent memory? You get Lope Gutiérrez-Ruiz, and our conversation with him does not disappoint.  Lope is a partner and project lead at In-House International, a design studio and typeface foundry. He’s also a TED Fellow, a Knight Fellow at Stanford, and the curator behind One Hundred Points. In this episode, we dig into what it actually looks like to build a creative practice rooted in curiosity and systems–not just style. Lope shares his take on design rules (and whether you should bother learning them) and how his journalism background still shapes every creative decision he makes. We also get into the realities of working with nonprofits, font piracy, and how he pulled off a massive exhibition without taking a sabbatical.  All that and more when you listen to this episode:  How Lope went from journalist to publisher to self-taught designer and typeface founderWhy being self-taught may actually be a creative advantage His philosophy on design rules, systems, and building a practice around curiosity The studio structure at In-House International The truth about font piracy and typeface licensingHow One Hundred Points came to be and why he thinks every designer should participate in an exhibitionTips for funding a creative exhibition through sponsorshipsThe “Alphabet of Tomorrow” talk at South by Southwest  Connect with Lope In-House International: weareinhouse.com Instagram: weareinhouseOne Hundred Points Exhibition: onehundredpoints.org  Mentioned in this episode: Run Studio Run https://nopicnicpress.com/shop/run-studio-run South by Southwest, “Alphabet of Tomorrow” talk, March 18, 2026 https://schedule.sxsw.com/events/PP1150035 Follow Your Art by Katie Johnson & Ilana Griffo (book releasing March 17th!) https://goodtype.us/follow-your-art-book Book Launch Event @ Roommate Collective at Springdale General, Austin: March 18th, 5-8pmTactical Guide to Sponsorship PDFConnect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    1h 8m

  5. FEB 24

    What If You Niched Out Instead of Down? | The Typecast Episode 66

    Send us Fan Mail “Finding your style” is the number one question we get asked, and the one we’ve asked ourselves for years. In this episode, we’re diving into the real question behind it: what if it’s not about finding a single aesthetic… but about uncovering your creative identity?  We’re celebrating the announcement of our new book, Follow Your Art, and sharing why we wrote it, what you’ll find inside, and how the entire process changed the way we think about style, niching, and creative confidence. We talk about why committing to one aesthetic can feel like a cage, why effortless ideas are often your most authentic ones, and how your “secret sauce” is built from everything.  We also unpack our take on “niching out, not down,” how to write an artist statement that actually feels like you, and how to market your work without feeling gross. All that and more when you listen to this episode: Why “How do I find my style?” might be the wrong questionThe difference between style and creative identity Why committing to one aesthetic feels terrifying (and limiting) The ice cream shop metaphor that reframes everythingHow to identify your creative “secret sauce” Why what feels effortless might actually be your magicThe role of childhood memories, relationships, and non-art influences in shaping your workWhat “niching out, not down” really meansWhat it was like to co-write a book over several yearsWhy creative work doesn’t have to feel hard to be valuableAnd so much more! Mentioned in this episode: Follow Your Art (our new book!) https://goodtype.us/follow-your-art-book Free audiobook with pre-order https://goodtype.us/follow-your-art-book Goodreads https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/239923273-follow-your-art Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    57 min

  6. FEB 10

    What If Personal Projects Were the Reason You Got Paid Work? With Lisa McCormick | The Typecast Episode 65

    Send us Fan Mail Pre-order our book, Follow Your Art! https://goodtype.us/follow-your-art-book In this episode, we’re joined by illustrator, designer, and letterer, Lisa McCormick who is celebrating 10 years of full-time freelancing and doing it her way! Lisa shares how she’s built a career working with major brands without being loud online or glued to every social media platform. We talk about why personal projects are often the reason dream clients come knocking, how curiosity and experimentation have shaped her signature style, and why being “quiet” online doesn’t mean being invisible.  We also get real about freelancing and burnout and what it looks like to intentionally design a workday (and life) that actually feels good. From color obsession phases and travel-inspired projects to co-working for mental health, this episode is packed with honest insights for creatives navigating long-term careers. If you’ve ever felt pressure to show up louder, work longer, or sacrifice yourself to success, this conversation is a reminder that there are many ways to build a fulfilling creative life. All that and more when you listen to this episode: What 10 years of freelancing has taught LisaWhy personal projects are her biggest source of paid client workHow curiosity and experimentation lead to unexpected opportunitiesBooking major clients without constantly posting or self-promotingThe difference between growing a following and growing a careerFinding and developing a signature illustration styleThe realities of art theft, Pinterest virality, and protecting your workWhy bigger clients often allow more creative freedomBuilding healthier workdays and boundaries, breaks, and balanceConnect with Lisa McCormick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/madebylisamarie/  Website: https://madebylisamarie.com/  Behance: https://www.behance.net/LisaMcCormick Mentioned in this episode: Chicago BearsMarine LayerPBSDribbbleAdobe MAX Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    51 min

  7. JAN 27

    What If Making Videos Helped You Make Better Art? | The Typecast Episode 64

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we’re joined by illustrator, letterer, and YouTuber Chris Piascik for a wide-ranging conversation about building a creative career without a grid master plan and why showing up consistently can change everything.  Chris shares how a daily challenge that started as a way to reconnect with drawing quietly became the foundation of his entire career. We talk about what it means to play the long game as a creative, how personal work can naturally lead to apid opportunities, and why focusing on making matters more than chasing the perfect strategy.  We also dig into YouTube as a creative outlet and income stream, how Chris balances client work with products and content creation, and the realities of building systems that work with (not against) an ADHD brain. From style evolution and experimentation to shipping physical products and dealing with internet opinions, this episode is packed with honest insights and plenty of laughs. All that and more when you listen to this episode: How a daily drawing habit shaped Chris’s entire careerWhy personal work and client work can feel like the same thingThe unexpected path from illustrator to YouTuberCreating structure and rules to stay consistentWhat actually helps your style evolve over timeWhy making more work matters more than making “perfect” workBuilding income beyond client projects through products and contentThe realities of running an online shopWhat makes YouTube different from other social platformsLetting curiosity, experimentation, and fun lead the wayConnect with Chris Piascik Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrispiascik/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chris-piascik  Website:https://www.chrispiascik.com/  Shop: https://www.chrispiascik.com/shop  Mentioned in this episode: Follow Your Art Book: https://www.abramsbooks.com/product/follow-your-art_9781419776823/SkillshareAdobe FrescoProcreateTom Froese (illustration improv exercises) Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    48 min

  8. JAN 13

    What If Freelancing Didn’t Mean Doing Everything Alone? with Joshua Jevons | The Typecast Episode 63

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with designer Josh Jevons to discuss what it actually looks like to build a sustainable creative career without burning out, cold-pitching nonstop, or doing everything yourself. We also get into real-world outreach strategies, including walking trade shows, pitching without being salesy, and why face-to-face connections still matter. Along the way, we talk packaging, brand strategy, work-life balance, and designing systems that allow you to grow without burning out. If you’re a designer who wants better clients, better collaboration, and a career that supports your life–not the other way around–this one’s for you. All that and more when you listen to this episode: Making the shift from agency work to independent freelancingWhy complementary skill sets matter more than hiring “another you”Building a flexible, collaborative, creative teamThe role of brand strategy in effective (not just beautiful) designPricing, budgets, and scaling process without cutting value What designers don’t learn in school, but learn fast on the jobOutreach strategies that actually feel humanHow to talk to potential clients without feeling awkward or salesyConnect with Joshua Jevons Website: https://www.jevonsdesign.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuajevons_design/  Yeah Brother’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yeahbrother.co/  Mentioned in this episode: Rochester Institute of Technology https://www.rit.edu/ Yeah Brother https://yeahbrother.co/ Adobe MAX https://www.adobe.com/max.html AIGA https://www.aiga.org/ Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype Goodtype WebsiteGoodtype on InstagramGoodtype on YoutubeWe wrote a book! Grab a copy and sign up to access the audiobook when we release it! Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets! Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the show Tag us on Instagram @Goodtype Follow us on Tiktok @lovegoodtype Learn from Katie and Ilana Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

    54 min
See All (71)

5
out of 5
83 Ratings

About

Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sorts—despite what your grandma thinks, we know there’s a whole lot more to what you do than just “drawing pretty pictures.” This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, we’re covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion. And we’re not just doing it alone! We’ll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. We’re big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and we’re even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, we’re gonna type-pun your face off), and don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!

Information

  • Creator
    Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    71
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 The Typecast: Grow Your Art Business
  • Show Website
    The Typecast: Grow Your Art Business

You Might Also Like