Join Stacy of Real Everything and Dr. Sarah of The Paleo Mom as they bust myths and answer your questions about a nontoxic lifestyle, nutrient-dense diet, Autoimmune Protocol, and parenting.
Episode 439: A Conversation around Current Events
The Whole View, Episode 439: A Conversation around Current Events
Welcome back to episode 439 of the Whole View. (0:27)
Just last week, Stacy and Sarah discussed the New Year and how we can start it off right by forming positive habits.
And then the New Year came and hit us all in the face.
Stacy takes a minute to reflect on how rough this week has been for everyone.
She also reminds any new listeners that Sarah is actually a new American citizen. She takes a moment to check in with Sarah on how she feels about every going on in our country.
Checking In With Sarah
Sarah has been struggling a lot with the Capitol events last week and the iterative unfolding around it.
She's found it incredibly hard to concentrate on work or even get away from the news alerts.
Sarah shares that she became a citizen because it felt like making official something that already existed.
Sarah explains how difficult it is to put the feelings of alarm, disappointment, concern, and overall violation into words.
She also expresses how she feels as if she's waiting for something - whether it's the other shoe to drop or consequences - or if it what she's waiting for will even happen altogether.
Sarah has been struggling to understand the complex mix of emotions she's been experiencing since last Wednesday.
She believes her experience is a very common one to many immigrants, in the sense that when she arrived in her new country, everything was different, and there was a lot of culture clash.
Many things are uniquely American that you learn about living here, immersed in the culture. No amount of TV or sharing with others can accurately show those things.
The more she learned about the country and its history, the more she came to appreciate the truly remarkable beginnings of the country. And the model of democracy it represents for the world.
Learning about a country is part of the immigrant process. And learning the history of the country is one thing that made Sarah fall in love with the US.
Right now, everything going on feels so discordant with what American Democracy means.
Sarah explains it like walking through your home after a burglar has broken in and you don't know what they've taken or touched and violated. (5:20)
That's how these events have made her feel about her adopted home- there's this permeating sense of violation.
Stacy shares how much she agrees with that analogy. For Stacy, her realization started around May/June.
That was around the time she and Sarah decided to come forward out of the community and talk about things they felt were representative of the messages shared on TWV, in terms of wellness and safety for all.
Stacy is working through these recent events on two levels: personally, as a mother, and also as someone lucky enough to have a voice in the community.
Stacy tells listeners that she's always been aware of her privilege.
Standing for safety and wellness for all has always been a mission and passion of hers:
She quit her job to devote more time to get safer beauty products into the hands of everyone.
She also has a degree in the Social Justice field and a minor in Women's Studies.
Advocacy is something that's been at the forefront of Stacy's mind. Yet, she could see the awful things happening and has, at times, been guilty of turning it off and looking away.
One of the realizations she came to is how privileged she is that she could even do that.
She could separate herself, turn it off, and look away because she is not directly affected or oppressed by the messages being sent.
It is not safe and not encouraging wellness for those vulnerable populations to witness some of the messages being said and not do anything to help or support.
Stacy adds that this is not designed to say, "you can't have free speech." But rather, that free speech isn't wha
Episode 438: The Fascinating Science of Habits
The Whole View, Episode 438: The Fascinating Science of Habits
Welcome back to episode 438 of the Whole View. (0:27)
Stacy welcomes listeners to the very first show of the year!
She is still readjusting to life after the holidays and knows everyone can identify with that sluggish feeling of getting back to routine.
Sarah is a little different because she makes habit-centered resolutions every year.
She takes the New Year as a time to reevaluate what she's planning to do in a habit-focused, not goal-focused, frame.
This year, she thought a lot about body shaming and predatory marketing strategies of big business.
She always finds the "new year, new you" mindset nauseating every year. But this year, whether it's because of the "quarantine 15" or something else, it's particularly bad.
Especially given how emotionally vulnerable Sarah is feeling after 2020.
This led Sarah to look into what's new in habit-forming research and refresh her knowledge of the science of habits since she hadn't done so in several years.
There is so much cool science on habits, and Sarah jokes she fell down the rabbit hole.
When she emerged, she realized how actionable it is. And how it can help pull on a lot of threads on how we can set up to succeed, period.
What Are Habits?
Sarah suggests they start by looking at what scientifically is considered a habit. (4:00)
She thinks that it's a bit more common to think of habits in the sense of bad ones we want to break, like smoking or nail-biting.
Sarah explains that while we more easily identify "bad habits," habit-forming as a whole is a very important form of learning.
A habit is a learned action that we perform automatically when we encounter that action's linked stimulus.
When the action is triggered, we perform it automatically and unconsciously.
Real, fully-formed habits are insensitive to the "reward" phase we initially rely on to form the habit.
Sarah also explains that we perform habitual behaviors in the exact same way every time we encounter the stimulus.
And once we reach the point where it does matter if there is a reward for performing the habit or not, the behaviors tend to stick with us long-term.
This is true even if the perceived benefit we derive from the behavior decreases over time or no longer distinguish a cause and effect of our behavior.
Science of Habits In Daily Life
We perform about 40% of our day-to-day actions are habitual, meaning they are determined by stimulus-response associations and requires no conscious thought. (6:00)
We evolved the ability to form habits because it does something important in terms of freeing up thinking resources.
When we're learning a habit, it starts as a routine to achieve an outcome (i.e., goal-directed), rewarded as reinforcement, and repeated in the same context.
Sarah explains at the beginning of this learning process, the brain must use multiple areas to perform the behavior.
Basal ganglia is the region of the brain associated with emotion, memories, pattern recognition, procedural learning, and control of voluntary motor movements.
The prefrontal cortex is the region of the brain associated with executive function and cognitive control. This includes attentional control, cognitive inhibition, inhibitory control, working memory, cognitive flexibility, information processing, planning, reasoning, problem-solving, organization, and decision making.
As we repeat the behavior and master it, we use the prefrontal cortex less and less to perform the behavior. This is when the basal ganglia takes completely over.
Once the action becomes a habit, we don't use the prefrontal cortex at all. This frees up valuable executive functions for other tasks!
Sarah used the example of learning to drive a car and "losing time" while driving long distances to show how prevalent the science of habits is in our lives.
The Science of Habits Behi
Episode 437: Intro to Nutrivore
Welcome back to episode 437 of the Whole View. (0:27)
Stacy welcomes new listeners and takes a quick moment to introduce herself.
Stacy had a 20-year career in Federal Regulation and Law. She jokes about how she tries not to talk about it because it's such a boring topic.
Discovering how what she put in and her body affected her health was a life-changing experience for her.
Now she works as her own boss. Stacy leads a large team (mostly women) focused on getting safer, non-toxic products into consumers' hands. She also does weekly podcasts with her co-host, Dr. Sarah Ballantyne.
Sarah also introduces herself to any new listeners. She has a medical research background and a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics.
Sarah also had a similar translational type experience as Stacy. While navigating her academic research career and struggling with over a dozen different health conditions, Sarah discovered just how much the food we eat impacts the way our bodies work.
Looking at her lifestyle choices and their impact on her life opened a new pathway for her.
Now Sarah is an author, blogger, health educator, and thinks of herself as a "science translator."
Her goal is to dig deep into the literature and act as a bridge to the academic research community she used to bring that information to everyday people who can benefit from it.
The Mission Of Nutrivore
Stacy tells listeners that one of the best things they've done to help bridge that gap looks at the specific nutrients within different forms of food and how they affect our bodies.
She adds that they've gotten so deep in the weeds, they want to look more big picture as to what being a "nutrivore" means from a whole health perspective.
Stacy also hopes that doing this will provide more context for the science of past and future shows.
Sarah tells the audience that she and Stacy have been throwing the word "nutrivore" around a lot lately.
She thinks that it would be helpful to ground ourselves in understanding what the ultimate goal is. That means getting away from diet jargon.
Sarah also shares that this is a fantastic episode to share with friends and family overwhelmed with diets.
There are so many "fad diets" approaches out there that can be next to impossible to separate out what is an influencer making commissions off of selling a supplement line versus something rooted in science that may be misinterpreted.
Sarah and Stacy try to stay as close to science as they possibly can. They use science to guide recommended health principles.
The vast majority of scientific studies tell us that focusing on a nutrient-rich fuel source, as well as other lifestyle factors, are the things that support health.
Diets vs. Health and Wellness
Stacy shares a huge mental shift of focusing on the outcome being health helped her navigate. (6:18)
"Diet" is a word used to sell you a weight loss product that actually depletes your body of nutrients. Or it could be referring to how you eat.
And so, instead of using a term used that way, it's easier for Stacy to think of nutrient-density as a way to achieve the ultimate goal: health.
Stacy tells listeners that the justification for all the things we do are all around this idea of health and wellness.
As so, as confusing as that is, one of the things that people get askew is the idea of nutrients.
She attributes this to macro and micronutrients. And they are entirely different.
Stacy suggests they start with the very basics and go over what they mean by "nutrient."
She also reminds listeners that the goal of every one of these shows is never to cause shame or guilt, whether for past choices or future ones.
Stacy adds one is perfect, and no one ever will be perfect. But we can make choices if we know what health looks like, and the more choices we make toward that goal, the better off we'll be.
What Are Nutrients?
Sarah dives into what the different nutrients are.
Episode 436: What Is Health, and How Do You Measure It?
The Whole View, Episode 436: What Is Health, and How Do You Measure It?
Welcome back to episode 436 of the Whole View. (0:27)
Stacy welcomes listeners and tells the audience how excited she and Sarah are to have new listeners!
She suggests they take a moment to introduce themselves.
Stacy has a 20-year career in Federal regulation and law. Her life-changing moment came from discovering what we put in and on our bodies affects our health.
Now she's her own boss and leads a large team focused on getting safer, non-toxic living products into the hands of everyone.
Dr. Sarah has a medical research background and a Ph.D. in medical biophysics. She used diet and lifestyle to regain her health.
Now she sees herself as a science translator. Her goal is to build a bridge between the researchers working on expanding human knowledge and everyday people who can benefit from the information.
Stacy explains that a lot of Whole View shows lately have done some very deep dives into the science on topics like foods, lifestyle factors, hormones, and specific nutrients.
She explains it's not about getting your body "beach body ready." But more about your health and feeling good.
Today she and Sarah want to pull all that together and discuss the basic philosophy of health, how we define and measure the actual goal.
Stacy reminds listeners that she and Sarah are not medical professionals or giving you medical advice.
She and Sarah want to give you information to empower you and take with you to your doctors.
Perspective & Bias
Stacy battled weight her whole life. (4:55)
As a tween, she was sent to "camp shame," which was basically a place for fat kids to lose weight.
This inevitably propelled her into cycles of yo-yo dieting with gaining, losing, and gaining hundreds of pounds throughout the course of her adult life.
Stacy shares that in coming to a health-oriented approach to her diet, she focused a lot on being a competitive athlete for the sport of StrongMan.
After an injury, it really caused her to re-evaluate how she defined self-care and self-love in the context of self-respect and acceptance.
Stacy explains how big a role acceptance played at this point in her life.
She had accepted her body in the context of her performance as an athlete but needed to work on accepting herself, period.
Lack of self-acceptance is how our societal and cultural beliefs are such that we allow media and marketing to think of ourselves as "less than" and "imperfect."
She also explains that this is how they sell billions of dollars of products to us that encourage us to change.
It is a lot harder to convince somebody to change if they already accept themselves the way that they are.
Stacy tells the audience that this is where we see things that are NOT healthy:
Thin, skinny, bikini body
Jacked, ripped, swole
Botox, collagen fillers, hair extensions, liposuction, lash serums that cause people to go blind
Teas, weight loss products, that are actually nutrient depleting
Stacy tells listeners that these ideas of "health" aren't realistic, but if you do use some of these products, that doesn't make you a bad or unhealthy person.
She jokes that if you love your hair extensions and they make you feel good about yourself, there's nothing wrong with that.
She also adds that the belief that thin = healthy is just wrong.
Health vs. Beauty
Stacy explains that many companies prey on making us feel like we need these products. And some people even risk going blind, hoping that they end up the percentage of people who get the long lashes. (8:40)
Sarah takes a minute to highlight the misdirect between health and beauty.
Unfortunately, Sarah says, it's so pervasive that it's difficult to persuade people into opening their minds.
Stacy adds that stereotypical ideas of beauty don't even equate to a healthy lifestyle.
She cites underweight models are seen a
Episode 435: Is Protein from Vegetables Enough?
The Whole View, Episode 435: Is Protein from Vegetables Enough?
Stacy tells listeners to hold onto their seats because today they're talking about veggies! (2:37)
She takes a minute to say how excited she is for this listener question because of how complicated dietary stuff can get.
"I have been listening to you two ladies since way back when you first started in 2012. Geez I was 15?! But I feel very lucky to have had such wonderful role models as I grew up in a not-so healthy (food and body image-wise) environment. And am thankful that I could count on you two to encourage a healthier perspective both inside and out!
I was wondering if you could discuss the myth of protein combining. I feel like maybe the reason people new to the "whole" lifestyle (new word for 'paleo' a la your podcast name change) become meatheads is because of this myth that if we don't eat meat we will not get all the amino acids we need.
However, as a biochemist and researcher, I have done the math using USDA nutritional guidelines. (2000 calories at 10-15% protein is only 50-75 g of protein with varying requirements for each individual amino acid) and their food database and found that as long as one eats ENOUGH PROTEIN PERIOD. It is literally impossible to not meet individual amino acid requirements - even consuming no meat, fish or eggs, as vegetables also have a significant protein-to-calorie ratio!
I understand that the digestibility of plant proteins is much lower than that of animal. But I thought you ladies would love another excuse to tout the benefits of increasing veggie intake. Plus, it make anti-inflammatory diets look more affordable when one understands that we don't have to hulk out on proteins. Love you two and hope you are safe and well in the epic times of COVID we are experiencing
Episode 434: CBD For Pets
The Whole View, Episode 434: CBD For Pets
Stacy welcomes listers to the show and jokes that she and Sarah will mostly be gushing about their dogs this week. (2:37)
She and Sarah have talked a lot about how great pets are for our well-being, mental health, and physical exercise.
They've also talked in past shows about how great CBD oil can be for humans.
Due to this, they've received tons of questions about what they know and/or can recommend about CBD for animals.
Stacy takes a moment to remind listeners that she and Sarah are not medical professionals or veterinarians.
However, they do love science and bringing you all the information they can.
About Today's Sponsor
Stacy takes a quick moment to thank One Farm for sponsoring this week's show.
All of One Farm's organic CBD tinctures for cats and dogs are made with the same high-quality USDA Organic CBD Distillate as our people products.
Organic CBD for cats and dogs are all Full Spectrum products so that you can maximize their benefits.
If you or your fur baby aren’t 100% happy with your product, you can return it for a full refund within 30 days.
One Farm does warn if your pet has a medical condition or takes pharmaceutical drugs, please consult their veterinarian before use.
To access One Farm's products, you can follow this link or use discount code WHOLEVIEW at checkout to receive 15% off your purchase!
One Farm has sponsored several CBD shows for Stacy and Sarah in the past. Those are episodes 420: CBD for Pain Management and 393: on CBD.
Stacy mentions that this week they won't be going deep into the science behind CBD.
She encourages any listeners who aren't familiar with the topic to revisit those episodes to better understand this show.
Sarah shares some feedback she received from frequent listener, Sherry, that inspired today's topic. (3:19)
"Hello ladies! First let me say I am so glad I discovered your podcast this year. I look forward to each new episode and have been working my way through past years on my daily dog walks and house cleaning. As a dog mom, I really enjoyed the two episodes you did earlier this year on pets. After listening to your episode on CBD for pain management I wondered if CBD could also work for dogs? I would love to know your take on it. Thanks again for your company during this strange year. I am positive we would be BFFs IRL."
Stacy informs all listeners that they are all her BFFs, and there's no "in real life." If you are here, Stacy considers you a best friend she just hasn't met!
She tells listeners that she is also very curious about this topic, especially in terms of anxiety for her really annoying cat!
Sarah touches on close to 30,000 studies that have been done on CBD's impact, and benefit uses on the human body, especially in terms of physical and emotional pain.
However, when she dug into the literature, she found that there have been less than 200 studies have been done with dogs.
The place we're left in, she explains, is one where the science really needs to catch up to the usage.
There are many products already marketed for pets, and there is still a lot left to know.
Because of this, Sarah decides to start with what science we do know.
Toxicology Of CBD For Pets
Sarah feels it is very important to take a huge step back for a moment and look at dosage, what happens when a dog or cat takes CBD, and overall safety. (6:45)
This is important because reports show dogs have a larger number of cannabinoid receptors in the brain than humans.
This means that they are much more sensitive to the psychoactive properties of THC than humans are.
Sarah adds that THC is actually quite toxic for dogs.
She cites many cases of dogs accidentally getting into owners' medical/recreational Marijuana supply and having some pretty detrimental effects.
Studies that specifically looked at CBD (in the absence of THC) hav
Customer ReviewsSee All
Love this podcast
I love everything about this podcast. The chemistry between Stacy and Sarah, the thoughtful topics and the great in-depth research. Thanks for all your hard work!
I discovered a love (ok, addiction) to podcasts roughly 2 years ago as I transitioned to a job where I spent much more time in the car. Very few have hooked me like The Whole View! I absolutely love listening to everything these wonderful ladies have to share - especially the science with Sarah portions!
I’ve recently been diagnosed with Hashimotos and I was diagnosed in 2012 (during grad school, aka hell) with POTS - postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. Looking back, I’m pretty sure I’ve had one or both of these since puberty as I’ve had many of the symptoms (which tend to overlap a lot) since then - some even earlier. This podcast has been a lifesaver as I am learning about the role of nutrition and lifestyle in managing my conditions. I can’t afford any of the integrative/functional MDs in my area so I’m trying to do the best I can with the info I can find and The Whole View makes that so much easier!
I have a burning question that I’m hoping you can give some insight into: 7 months ago I gave birth to my beautiful son who was this perfect little human. From the get go he has had issues with his tummy (gas, constipation) and for about 2 months he’s been suffering from eczema. He was a csection baby and had a lot of trouble with breastfeeding so we had to start supplementing with formula before he even left the hospital. Now his diet is mostly formula, but he gets about 4-6oz of breastmilk/day and we’ve started some puréed solids. We use nutramigen bc it was the only thing that made his stomach issues tolerable (still constipated a lot though) and the pediatrician put him on a steroid cream for the eczema. I make sure the solids he gets are organic and no added ingredients (literally just the 1 food) and I try to get a variety of fruits and veggies. My issue is the formula. I can control what I eat and I can pick the solids and fix them how I want. But his main source of nutrition is formula and I just can’t seem to find anything that doesn’t have tons of crap in it. I tried Earths Best Organic, but the first ingredient is glucose syrup so I feel like it’s not worth the hefty price tag for the same thing as the store brand stuff. Can you recommend any formulas that are genuinely better for supporting his gut/skin microbiome and health?
Thank you for the incredible work you each do and for bringing it to your listeners! I’m so thankful for y’all!
Information and entertainment
I love these women. They have the best dynamic together. The information is top quality and the conversation is endearing. I have to remind myself that I don’t actually know them. It feels like they are my best friends.