Older & Wilder

GGW Media

Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner." This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world. We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation! www.joyandclaire.com

  1. 3D AGO

    Turn In & Travel Plans

    Mother’s Day on the Green River, Moab Race Meetup, and Puppy Turn-In Updates Joy and Claire chat about early wake-ups, airline announcements, and pilot “too much detail” stories. They share Mother’s Day plans to float the Green River “Daily” near Moab and discuss refining their rafting boat packing system. From their Peru group chat, they float the idea of an unofficial Moab meet-up around a trail race weekend (15K, half, marathon, 50K) and advise booking hotels over pricey Airbnbs, noting the April 24, 2027 date. They discuss nostalgia for No Doubt, a gory dark-comedy film “Send Help” starring Rachel McAdams and directed by Sam Raimi, and Joy finishing the climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard.” Joy previews Lilas' upcoming CCI puppy turn-in, talks puppy-raising realities and grief, answers Q&A on Mind Pump, finding a workplace mentor, and dog toy recommendations for strong chewers. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:47 Pilot Oversharing Stories 03:04 Listening In Flight 03:49 Flight Tracking Anxiety 05:01 Pentagon Twin Day 06:16 Mothers Day Float Plan 08:30 Rafting Gear Systems 10:14 Moab Race Meetup Idea 13:09 Where To Stay In Moab 15:19 No Doubt Nostalgia 17:24 Send Help Movie Review 19:40 Dark Wizard Doc Update 21:21 Climbing Doc Obsession 23:18 Leila Turn In Emotions 26:30 Service Dog Reality Check 28:20 Haynes Toy Chase Antics 30:46 Puppy Raising Community 32:17 Mind Pump Bros Take 34:55 Finding Work Mentors 39:12 Toys For Strong Chewers 44:17 Moab Meetup And Wrap

    23 min

  2. MAY 7

    What We're Watching & Reading

    Social Media Breaks, Peru Reset, and What We’re Watching & Reading Claire and Joy open with Arrested Development jokes and then discuss how meme culture and news consumption feel bleak, leading Joy to describe a mental-health-improving Peru “hard reset” of staying off social media, avoiding push notifications, and getting news from traditional outlets instead. They reflect on feeling helpless about Supreme Court decisions and on social media outrage/cancel culture, citing “Therapy Jeff” and mentioning Mel Robbins. Claire shares family updates, including Evie’s Beauty and the Beast dance recital and Miles’ extra energy now that he’s between sports, plus a chat about slow unpacking and liking Away luggage. They recommend HBO’s climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard” about Dean Potter, discuss Lena Dunham’s memoir and Girls, and Claire lists recent fiction reads while panning The Comfort Crisis, before plugging their Instagram, TikTok, and email. 00:00 Welcome and Hop Ons 00:22 Arrested Development Quotes 01:39 Meme Days Check In 02:21 Social Media Detox 03:54 Supreme Court Spiral 06:47 Peru Airplane Mode 08:16 Therapy Influencer Drama 11:28 Dance Recital Chaos 15:28 Post Trip Unpacking 17:44 Away Luggage and Points 19:37 Dark Wizard Docuseries 22:20 Climbing Subculture World 23:51 Climbing Brotherhood 24:20 Rivalry and Territorialism 25:24 Dean vs Alex Debate 26:02 El Cap Ethics 27:30 Watching Free Solo 29:11 Series Recommendation 29:32 Lena Dunham Memoir 33:15 Girls Fame Fallout 37:25 Fiction Book Picks 39:20 Comfort Crisis Rant 42:37 More Reads and Wrap 43:15 Social Media Goodbye

    23 min

  3. APR 30

    Post-Peru Reflections

    Peru Post-Trip Blues, Surf Retreat Highlights, and Planning Japan 2028 Joy and Claire recap travel and post-trip depression after Peru, including Claire extending her trip for a Peru surf retreat in Chiama with Surf with Amigas, riding unusually long left waves, visiting archaeological sites, and seeing the preserved “Lady of Cao.” They describe a stressful Cusco-to-Lima flight delay due to the plane being too heavy, resulting in many bags left behind, and praise guide Leo for getting everyone’s luggage recovered before flights home. They discuss planning a Go Ahead Tours Japan trip for May 2028, outline the “Japan for Women” itinerary, and how they’ll share signup info. Back home, Joy starts a new job at Headspace as director of therapy, Scott also gets promoted, and they plan to puppy-raise again by taking over a six-month-old yellow lab named McCoy after turning in Lilas. 03:15 Not Saving Memories 03:47 Trip Photos Exception 04:42 Peru Travel Day 06:37 Surf Retreat Highlights 07:31 Peru History Shock 08:21 Pisco Sour Hangover 11:24 Lost Luggage Drama 15:33 Post Trip Blues 18:05 Japan 2028 Tease 20:50 Back to Work Updates 22:13 Puppy Raising Again 23:46 Meet McCoy 24:25 Collar Scholars Week 26:10 Dogs Want Dinner 26:41 Summer Schedule Chaos 28:36 Trips And Concerts 29:21 Dean Potter Doc 33:58 Van Life Reality Check 36:15 Gym Pricing Rant 40:22 Garage Gym Plans 41:35 Wrap Up And Plugs

    21 min

  4. APR 23

    Live From Peru!

    Older and Wilder Live in Peru: Sacred Valley Reflections, Machu Picchu Magic, and Leo’s Tour-Guide Legends Joy and Claire record a live “Older and Wilder” episode reflecting on how group travel with EF Go Ahead Tours removes the stress of planning and creates immersive cultural experiences. Travelers share motivations (community, FOMO, bucket-list Machu Picchu) and favorite moments: Machu Picchu, Incan archaeological sites, a community lunch and ceremony, women’s weaving cooperative, cooking class, churros in Lima, cathedral art, bus rides on narrow roads, and an ’80s dance party/karaoke on the train. Guide Leo explains his path to tour directing, love of sharing Peru, and encourages visitors to explore beyond Machu Picchu, including food, Arequipa, Nasca lines, and the Amazon. 00:00 Live From Peru 01:04 Sacred Valley Vibes 02:25 Unplugging From News 04:34 Why Peru Happened 05:30 No Planning Needed 06:54 Trip Community Magic 09:13 Passing The Mic 10:42 Traveler Stories Begin 12:52 Train Karaoke Memories 19:12 Big Picture Takeaways 22:02 Churros And Bus Skills 25:18 Cooking Class Chaos 26:40 Machu Picchu Highlights 27:27 Weaving Cooperative Magic 28:36 FOMO And Friendship 30:06 Why Group Trips Matter 31:30 Cusco Culture Layers 32:42 Unrepeatable Travel Moments 34:57 Dogs Dances And Daily Life 37:05 Cat Shoutouts And Cathedrals 38:44 Pride And Shared Culture 42:44 Thanking Leo The Guide 46:12 Leo Origin Story 51:58 Leo Moments And Next Trips 55:48 Japan Plans And Farewell

    29 min

  5. APR 9

    Off the Grid

    Easter Morning, River-Trip Hypothermia, and Peru Prep! Joy and Claire trade stories about kids and childhood Easter traditions like egg hunts, church, and family meals. Claire recounts a spring-break rafting trip on Utah’s Upper San Juan River including visiting cliff-dwelling sites, a layover day, and a sudden thunderstorm. They discuss upcoming travel to Peru, interest in a future Japan trip, Joy’s promotion, and tips for altitude prep. 02:35 Kids Lovies and Stuffy Names 03:24 Childhood Easter Traditions 04:26 Easter Outfits and Memories 06:42 Holiday Meals and Spring Vibes 07:50 Weird Headlines and Politics 09:01 Rockies Day and Dairy Queen Secret 10:23 Party Adults and Breaking Rules 13:46 Upper San Juan River Trip Setup 15:29 Storm Rapid and Hypothermia Scare 21:28 Off the Grid and Camp Food 22:23 Camp Meals Done Right 23:06 Savory Smores Hack 23:57 Kids Camp Freedom 25:11 Walkie Talkie Pro Tip 25:55 Buying A Raft Rig 29:43 Rigging Ammo Can Chaos 31:43 Leaky Boat And Kayak Story 33:07 Peru Trip Schedule 33:55 JT Ashes And Goodbyes 35:07 Summer Travel Sprint 37:58 Raft Guide Reunion 39:46 Altitude Sickness Prep 41:23 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us

    21 min

  6. APR 2

    Past & Present Adventures

    House-Sitting in Arizona, Tracking Teens, and Planning a Japan Trip Joy and Claire chat about pet and house-sitting. Joy describes a nostalgic “time warp” weekend with her friend’s nearly-18-year-old daughter, running into a high school friend’s younger sister, and hanging at the mall. They discuss modern teen tracking tools (Life360, car cameras) and balancing safety with independence, plus kids’ self-navigation skills. In Q&A, they cover folding fitted sheets, cleaning quirks, favorite clothing items, sweet vs savory brunch, and announce a Japan group trip for May 2027. Joy also shares updated thyroid/antibody management, sleep needs, views on workout programs, and recurring podcast lore like “he vapes now.” 01:45 Moab Sitter Plug 04:30 Girls Weekend Time Warp 08:05 Mall Nostalgia 09:32 Tracking Kids Debate 13:16 Freedom Versus Safety 17:11 Bus Schedules Growing Up 17:57 Q and A Kickoff 18:08 Fitted Sheet Fails 20:11 Cleaning Quirks Confessions 22:01 Favorite Clothing Picks 26:03 Outfit Repeats Debate 27:00 Beauty Myths That Stick 27:50 Brunch Sweet Or Savory 28:34 Japan Trip Details 30:55 Thyroid Antibodies Update 35:58 Sleep In Your Forties 38:12 Weightlifting Programs Review 40:20 He Vapes Now Lore 43:18 Love Languages Ranked 46:03 Rapid Fire Favorites 46:50 Name Change Thoughts 48:31 Wrap Up And Japan Feedback

    25 min

  7. MAR 26

    We Love You, JT

    Saying Goodbye to JT and Finding Support in Grief Joy and Claire discuss travel concerns about altitude sickness for an upcoming Peru trip and past experiences with motion sickness and sleep. The conversation shifts to Joy’s dog JT, who was 14, and the difficult decision to schedule in-home euthanasia after noticing declining mobility. Joy describes the hospice vet process, the peaceful passing, how their other dogs reacted, and choosing private cremation with plans to honor him in Westcliff. They discuss the intensity of pet grief, support from friends, work boundaries, pet loss groups, and the community’s messages and donations to Canine Companions in JT’s name. Pet Loss Grief Explained 03:57 Peru Altitude Worries 06:50 Seasickness and Dramamine 08:26 Sleep Then and Now 11:23 Dog Blanket Antics 12:37 Saying Goodbye to JT 13:33 Senior Dog Decline Signs 18:00 Calling Hospice Vet 21:54 Making the Hard Choice 24:58 Facing the Decline 26:00 No Judgment Decisions 28:47 Quality of Life Tools 32:53 Saying Goodbye at Home 35:25 Support and Work Boundaries 39:25 Why Pet Grief Hits Hard 40:55 Memorial Plans and Support Groups 43:41 Laughing Through the Pain 46:58 Community Thanks and Closing

    25 min

  8. MAR 19

    Navigating Healthcare, Travel, and Choices: A Conversation with Emily Scott

    Two Dusty Travelers: COVID Front Lines, L&D Mistrust, and Choosing a Childfree Life Joy and Claire hosts Emily Scott (Two Dusty Travelers), an RN known for caring for the first diagnosed hospitalized COVID patient in the U.S., to discuss how her platform evolved beyond “the COVID lady” and how politics and misinformation have fueled distrust in healthcare. Emily, now a labor and delivery nurse with a background in peace studies and global health work in East Africa, describes rising patient suspicion since 2020, including refusal of newborn hepatitis B vaccination, vitamin K, and other standard care, and notes anti-vax sentiment even among some nurses. They discuss the difficulty of changing minds at scale versus through long one-on-one conversations, the pressures and taboos around being childfree by choice and parental regret, and gaps in pain management for IUD insertion. Emily shares hope as sustained effort plus balance, and highlights Tanzania as a favorite destination, inviting interest in her group trips and naming Namibia as a future goal. 02:37 Politics and Online Unfollows 03:54 From Global Health to L&D 05:10 Mistrust in Healthcare Now 06:43 Newborn Shots and Misinformation 08:07 Wild Hospital Stories 12:06 Anti Vax Nurses and Vaccine Clinics 13:55 Bridging the Gap with Skeptics 16:41 Childfree by Choice Conversation 25:09 Pressure, Regret, and Nuance 28:51 Sliding Doors and What Ifs 33:19 Childfree Without Shame 33:44 TikTok Narratives and Stigma 34:46 Pop Culture and TV Time 35:43 Why Romance Feels Safe 37:49 Spicy Talk and Sex Ed Gaps 38:50 IUD Pain Control Reality 44:17 Labor Stories and Trusting Bodies 45:23 Home Birth vs Hospital Birth 49:21 Hope and Fighting Burnout 54:27 East Africa Travel Plans 57:05 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us

    55 min
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About

Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner." This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world. We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation! www.joyandclaire.com

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  • Creator
    GGW Media
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2026
  • Episodes
    335
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2025 GGW Media
  • Show Website
    Older & Wilder

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