We'll Sleep When We're Dead: A Motherhood Podcast

We'll Sleep When We're Dead
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We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life. This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there. New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

  1. 5d ago

    What do a Harvard Law degree, a three-Michelin-star restaurant, and a frozen waffle have in common? Emily Groden's career.

    Emily is the founder and CEO of Evergreen, the better-for-you frozen waffle brand built on a simple idea: what if your kid's easiest breakfast was also their most nutritious one? In this episode, Emily shares the winding, shoot-your-shot journey that took her from corporate law at Kirkland & Ellis to general counsel at Alinea to accidental food entrepreneur — all while pregnant, then postpartum, then navigating a COVID launch week. We talk about what it really means to be a "mom founder," the specific moment a podcast sparked a business idea (very meta, we know), and why Emily credits her kids — not in spite of them — for keeping Evergreen alive through the hard moments. Plus: pancakes are coming, protein waffles are on the way, and yes, Sam puts cottage cheese on everything. In this episode: Why Emily cold-emailed the founder of Alinea at 10pm — and got a response in 18 minutes The reframe that changed how she thinks about work-life balance (hint: it's "integration," not balance) How being her own core consumer is her biggest competitive advantage Why she hasn't compromised on a single ingredient, even when investors told her to The non-negotiables that keep her going as a working mom and founder "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." — Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott, and apparently Emily Groden. Find Evergreen at eatevergreen.com or @EatEvergreen on social. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    38 min

  2. Jun 16

    Summer as a Mom: Travel Chaos, Hot Takes & a Long Overdue Catch-Up

    In this episode of We'll Sleep When We're Dead, Sam and Lucy reunite for a solo catch-up after Sam's eventful trip to Portugal — including a flight diversion to Boston and a reunion with her kids that surprised even her. The hosts dive into summer as a working mom vs. stay-at-home mom, share what they're loving this season, and play a fun summer yay-or-nay game covering everything from camping to outdoor concerts to state fairs. They also tease some incredible upcoming guests and share what's been inspiring them lately. A perfect listen for moms navigating the summer season with humor, honesty, and zero pretense. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Find us on YouTube at We'll Sleep When We're Dead PodcastFind us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    36 min

  3. Jun 9

    From Fevers to Head Injuries: An ER Doctor Answers Parents’ Biggest Questions

    When should you take your child to the ER — and when can you wait? In this episode, we sit down with an emergency medicine physician and dad of three to get answers to the questions every mom has Googled at midnight. We cover: ​When to go to the ER vs. stay home​RSV and bronchiolitis symptoms in babies and toddlers​Pediatric head injury warning signs (and the PECARN rule every parent should know), and what concussion vs. skull fracture imaging actually tells you​When kids need stitches vs. glue​Helmet safety, trampolines, and what ER doctors actually worry about Whether you're a first-time mom or a third-timer who still panics, this episode is packed with practical, doctor-approved guidance for navigating kids' emergencies with more confidence. Medical Disclaimer: This episode features a licensed emergency medicine physician. Content is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. https://www.mdcalc.com/calc/589/pecarn-pediatric-head-injury-trauma-algorithmhttps://www.mdcalc.com/calc/589/pecarn-pediatric-head-injury-trauma-algorithm Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Socials! Youtube - We'll Sleep When We're Dead Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    40 min

  4. Jun 2

    The Working Mom Reality Check: 5 Truths We Don’t Talk About Enough

    Working moms, stay-at-home moms, and every mom in between — this one's for you. In this episode, we're sharing five honest truths about being a working mom: from the golden rule that someone always gets sick before a big work trip, to why childcare is genuinely hard no matter which option you choose, to the reality that ambition doesn't disappear after you have kids — and why that's perfectly okay. We also get real about the mental load of leaving for a work trip, the constant trade-offs working parents navigate every single day, and why kids absolutely cannot behave the moment you get on a work call. Whether you're a new mom trying to figure out work-life balance, a seasoned working parent in the thick of it, or just looking for some honest mom talk — we see you. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    41 min

  5. May 26

    Stay or Leave? Why That's the Wrong Question — with WorkMom's Mel Goodman

    If you've ever felt trapped between staying in your career or walking away entirely — this episode is for you. We're back with returning guest Mel Goodman of Work Mom, and we're going deeper than our first conversation about the mental load. Today we're tackling the question so many moms are quietly asking right now: do I stay or do I go? And Mel's here to tell you why that binary is keeping you stuck. In this episode we cover:     •    Why you can't make a sound career decision when you're in a state of depletion — and what to do first     •    The 12 career options (yes, 12) that working moms actually have, organized into 6 clusters     •    What a "portfolio career" is and why it might be the bridge so many in-between moms are looking for     •    Fractional work, job sharing, consulting — what they really require and if they're right for you     •    The identity load: why leaving corporate feels like losing yourself     •    What it means to "redefine success" in your current role without quitting     •    The 3 questions every overwhelmed working mom should sit with right now Mel also responds to a listener message about using AI as a life coach to work through the constant oscillation between career ambition and wanting to be present for her kids — and it's one of the most relatable moments we've had on the podcast. Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in the in-between, this episode will meet you exactly where you are. Find Mel at https://www.workmom.io/about Email us: wswd.podcast@gmail.com Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: @WSWWD

    45 min

  6. May 19

    Stay-At-Home Mom Truths: Loneliness, Boredom & Feeling Left Behind

    This week, we're getting real. Sam shares her five honest truths about life as a stay-at-home mom — and they might not be what you expect. From loving your kids deeply while being completely bored out of your mind, to the loneliness that no playdate can fully fix, to the feeling that the outside world is moving on without you — this episode says out loud what so many moms think but don't say. We also get into the "grateful trap" — that pressure to always be thankful for the life you chose, even on the days when it's really, really hard. Plus raccoon updates, Summer House confessions, and why we're both officially anti-pet. Whether you're a stay-at-home mom, a working mom, or somewhere in between — this one's going to hit. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    43 min

  7. May 12

    Quitting the Corporate Ladder to Be a Present Dad — and Going Viral Doing It, with Jason Eadie

    What does it take to walk away from a successful corporate career to become a full-time dad and content creator? This week, we sit down with Jason Eadie — creator, entrepreneur and father of 4. As the face behind the wildly popular social media account 4KidsCallMeDad, Jason comes on to talk about career pivots, intentional parenting, and betting on yourself even when there's no safety net. Jason shares his journey from Ernst & Young accountant to med device sales rep at Stryker, to full-time content creator with millions of followers — and why he has zero regrets. We dig into what it really looks like to document family life authentically, how he thinks about his kids' presence on social media, the truth about travel sports and whether it's actually worth it, and the one question he asks his kids after every single game that has nothing to do with the score. In this episode we cover: ​Leaving a stable corporate career to follow your passion​Building an authentic brand around real family moments​Kids and social media — the honest conversation​Travel sports culture and what actually matters​Raising resilient kids through setbacks and disappointment​Why Jason thinks the whole retirement system is backwardsFollow Jason @4kidscallmedad Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    45 min

  8. May 5

    Quality Time vs. Quantity Time: What Actually Matters for Moms This Mother's Day

    This Mother's Day week, Lucy and Sam get honest about the working mom vs. stay at home mom debate that no one talks about enough — is quality time with your kids actually better than quantity time? Inspired by Emma Grede's controversial take on motherhood and career, they unpack the pressure modern moms feel to make every moment intentional, and why that pressure might be making things worse. From solo parenting burnout to the banana meltdown that derailed a perfectly planned pickup, this episode is raw, funny, and deeply relatable. Plus: suburban raccoon drama, a city vs. suburbs step count challenge, and the most toxic mom trait you'll 100% recognize in yourself. Happy Mother's Day to every mom doing her best out there — this one's for you. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    45 min
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We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life. This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there. New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

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