Rebecca Jankowski and Theresa Kopac, co-owners of Interwovxn, join host Dr. Daina Parent, ND for an insightful and important conversation about postpartum and perimenopause. Rebecca and Theresa share their unique experiences supporting women during these two major life transitions, and what happens when these two phases happen simultaneously. They share diet, herbs, lab testing, and lifestyle routines that set their clients up for improved overall well-being and better health outcomes. Rebecca and Theresa share the importance of embracing change and seeking support through the transitions of motherhood, postpartum and perimenopause. Rebecca states "I believe that by addressing the unique needs of women at every stage, we can create an ecosystem of understanding, empowerment, and connection that benefits individuals and communities alike." Theresa echos a similar sentiment, saying that "Mental health and well-being are deeply interconnected with how we show up in the world, and creating environments where women feel valued and understood is essential. Together, we can create a ripple effect, nurturing ourselves and building thriving, supportive communities." Please join us and listen in as we deepen our knowledge and empower ourselves with education. Rebecca Jankowski, L.Ac, MSOM, FABORM Rebecca Jankowski has been practicing Acupuncture for nearly 20 years, and is a board-certified women's health acupuncturist. While she has specialized training in women's health and fertility, her approach extends to anyone seeking greater wellbeing, resilience, and balance in everyday life. In addition to acupuncture, Rebecca is board certified in Chinese herbal medicine and specializes in creating personalized formulas to support whole-body health. Theresa Kopac, Reiki Practitioner, Wellness Consultant, Doula (Motherhood, Postpartum, and Hysterectomy) Theresa brings years of experience as a postpartum and motherhood doula, with a focus on matrescence—the profound transition of becoming a mother. Her approach blends compassionate listening with tailored resources, empowering you to feel more grounded, resilient, and supported in your unique motherhood path. Supporting women through the intricacies of postpartum and perimenopause is now at the core of her work, as she strives to create space for them to thrive, honor their needs, and reclaim joy. Theresa also brings years of experience in Reiki. 3:01 Matrescence and it's affects on identity and women's health 4:37 Postpartum depletion 5:20 How personal experiences shaped Rebecca and Theresa's work in postpartum and perimenopause – women's health stages often are interwoven 9:34 What the body and mind experience during postpartum through the lens of TCM 12:15 The rewiring of the brain for the new maternal demands 15:19 "There is no bouncing back" – but there is a rebuild 15:58 Traditional Chinese Medicine nourishment for postpartum 20:32 Shifts in identity during Matresence and Perimenopause 22:15 The need for education around perimenopause 24:24 "The Second Spring" – how TCM views perimenopause 25:51 The hormone shifts from child bearing years through menopause 28:11 The secret to change: using your energy not to fight the old but to embrace the new 30:02 What happens when postpartum overlaps with perimenopause – sleep deprivation, adrenal fatigue, anemia, thyroid function and more 35:02 Botanicals and nutrients to nourish the body during postpartum and perimenopause 37:00 Supporting with doula care – the power of a prepared meal and offering space to heal 38:33 Clinical takeaways – meet her where she's at, celebrating the small wins, and educating on diet to support symptoms 39:53 Be willing to ask for support – Interwovxn offers partner guides and resources to educate partners, increasing understanding and awareness 41:07 Seeking Support – find practitioners that can help at interwovxn.com, with additional educational resources like podcasts, newsletters, and social channels