The Managing Partners Podcast: Law Firm Business Podcast

Kevin Daisey & Array
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By tuning in to the leading business podcast for lawyers, you can discover how lawyer entrepreneurs are filling their case pipeline while growing their firms in the process. Kevin Daisey interviews today’s top law firm owners, managing partners, and legal experts who share what they’re doing to exponentially grow their law firm practices. We tackle your most pressing questions about leadership, operations, intake, finance, processes, sales, marketing, culture, and much more. The Managing Partners Podcast is hosted by Array, the thought leader in law firm digital marketing. Subscribe for the latest legal marketing insights! arraydigital.com

  1. 3D AGO

    Building a Sustainable Law Practice Through Purpose and Culture

    Creating a thriving law firm depends on intentional leadership and a strong organizational culture. In this episode, law firm owner Barry Siegel shares insights from his 24+ years in estate planning, emphasizing the importance of clarity around core values and strategic delegation. His approach highlights the necessity of aligning team roles with individual passions to foster engagement and client service excellence. Barry Siegel is the president of Siegel Law Group, specializing in estate planning and elder law across Florida. He’s been practicing for over two decades, growing his firm with a focus on systems, processes, and a purpose-driven team. The conversation explores how leadership decisions impact firm growth and sustainability. In This Episode You'll Learn: The significance of building a purposeful culture aligned with core values How effective delegation and specialization support scalable growth The role of ongoing education and networking in leadership development Why client experience and employee recognition drive referrals and reputation The importance of adapting team roles as the firm expands This episode provides practical lessons for law firm owners aiming to lead with purpose, develop their teams, and deliver exceptional client service. It underscores that strategic leadership and culture are key drivers for sustainable growth. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - The Secret to a Happy Workplace(00:00:43) - Management Partners Podcast: Barry Siegel(00:01:47) - In the Elevator With Barry Siegel(00:03:21) - Bradley: On Managing a Business Success(00:07:38) - Grow Your Law Practice: The Right Group for You(00:16:24) - One of the Core Values of the Firm(00:23:24) - The Secret to Good Law Firm Experience(00:27:20) - Building a Law Firm: Barry Siegel on Estate Planning

    29 min

  2. MAR 26

    Aligning Law Firm Marketing: Strategies for Success and Leadership

    Many law firms struggle with aligning their internal teams and external vendors, often due to miscommunication and unclear expectations. This episode explores the importance of strategic leadership in marketing and how law firm owners can better manage relationships with vendors and internal teams. Tiffany Swedensky shares insights from her experience working with law firms, emphasizing the need for clarity, measurable goals, and proactive communication.We discuss how fractional CMOs serve as strategic bridges, helping firms grow responsibly while preparing to bring marketing in-house. Tiffany highlights the significance of structured planning, routine reporting, and understanding marketing metrics to avoid burnout and misalignment. In this episode: The role of clear communication in marketing success How to evaluate and select marketing partners Building leadership within a law firm’s marketing operations The importance of measurable goals and reporting When and why to consider a fractional CMO This conversation offers practical advice for managing growth efficiently and ensuring your firm’s marketing efforts contribute to sustainable success. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - How To Get Your SEO Vendor to Step Up(00:00:46) - A Guest on The Managing Partners Podcast(00:02:07) - How to start and grow a business in the digital world(00:10:22) - Is a Fractional CMO Right for Law Firms?(00:18:57) - Bringing the Ideas to the Law Firm(00:28:54) - How to Get the Most Out of Your Marketing(00:31:10) - How to Connect with Fractional CMOs

    33 min

  3. MAR 19

    Leadership and Growth Strategies for Law Firm Owners

    This episode explores the leadership journey of a Florida personal injury attorney, emphasizing how firm owners can develop scalable operations.  Andrew Pickett shares his experience transitioning from trial law to managing a growing practice, highlighting the importance of delegation, strategic hiring, and mindset shifts. In this episode you'll learn: How coaching programs like Atticus can shift a lawyer's mindset from technician to business owner The importance of hiring for traits and cultural fit over skills The role of systems like EOS or Fireproof in streamlining firm operations How personal development enhances professional growth and leadership Why proactive hiring before reaching capacity prevents operational bottlenecks This conversation offers practical insights into leadership, operational strategies, and cultivating a growth-oriented law firm. It’s especially valuable for managing partners looking to scale sustainably and build strong teams. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - The Need for a Pre-Suit Attorney(00:00:52) - Managing Partners Podcast: Andrew Pickett(00:01:46) - Attorney From The Space Coast(00:04:08) - Lawyer Turns Down UVA to Start a Business(00:06:29) - How to Run a Law Firm on Your Own(00:10:57) - Leading With Fireproof: The Integrator(00:18:54) - How to Hire the Right People(00:19:21) - Work-Life Balance(00:24:46) - How to Make Connections With Andrew Pickett Law

    26 min

  4. MAR 12

    Why Managing Partners Fail to Scale

    Scaling a law firm requires more than systems. John Glon explains why many managing partners hit a ceiling even after implementing EOS. The issue is leadership alignment, ego, and unclear personal goals. Growth stalls when the owner refuses to evolve. In this episode you will learn how to define your future role, when to hire a president or COO, and why reinvesting profits into your firm often beats outside investments. You will also hear why chasing 10X growth without clarity leads to burnout. If you own a law firm and want structured growth without losing control of your life, this conversation gives you a clear path. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - How To Build a Law Firm.(00:00:32) - Managing Partners: John Glenn on the Podcast(00:01:50) - Why EOS 2.0 Is the Right Fit for You(00:04:54) - How to Get Out Of the Closer With Your Personal Growth(00:08:26) - Do You Need a Co-Founder?(00:10:50) - Grow Your Business or Start a Law Firm(00:15:49) - Getting the Ego Out of the Way(00:18:42) - How Much Money Should You Invest in Your Business?(00:23:34) - Grow 10x in 5 Years or Less(00:27:09) - How to Get Out Of Debt For Your Kids(00:30:03) - What Do You Really Want For Your Life?(00:30:55) - John Grossman

    33 min

  5. MAR 5

    How to Start and Grow a Law Firm (Without Going Broke)

    In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey interviews Jane Muir, founder of J. Muir & Associates in Miami, Florida, about her journey from being laid off during the 2009 financial crisis to building a seven-figure business law firm. Jane shares what it was really like starting with just $350 in revenue, facing payroll with only $17 in the bank, and realizing that being a great lawyer is not the same as being a great business owner. She explains how a simple SWOT analysis helped her pivot into business law, why tracking KPIs changed everything, and how thinking like a managing partner transformed her firm. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to use SWOT analysis to choose the right practice area Why law firm owners must track KPIs and financial data The mindset shift from attorney to CEO How leadership and community involvement drive growth Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. If you're focused on law firm management, profitability, and long-term growth, this episode is packed with practical insight. Chapters (00:00:00) - Management Partners Podcast(00:01:55) - Start a Law Firm: Jane Rosenthal(00:09:32) - The Secret to Becoming a Better Lawyer(00:12:29) - How to Get Out of the Personal Injury Trap(00:17:37) - Should You Focus Your Law Firm?(00:24:43) - Bootstrapping: The Next Level(00:28:21) - How to Win a Win(00:28:32) - 10 Steps to Becoming a Million-Dollar Winner(00:31:52) - How to really listen to this podcast

    33 min

  6. FEB 26

    Stop Running a Practice. Build a Business.

    What does it really take to scale a law firm profitably? In this episode of the Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Brooke Lively, law firm growth expert, EOS implementer, and founder of CathCap, to unpack why most attorneys struggle to run their firms like businesses. From costly hiring mistakes that can exceed 150,000 dollars per attorney to the six key components of EOS, this conversation dives deep into execution, accountability, leadership, and culture. Brooke explains how law firm owners can move from chaos to clarity using 90-day rocks, measurable data dashboards, core value alignment, and process optimization. They also discuss the biggest myth about self-implementing EOS and why most firms only scratch the surface without guidance. If you are a managing partner looking to improve law firm profitability, build a self-managing team, reduce turnover, and create scalable systems, this episode delivers practical strategies you can implement immediately. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we are a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - How to Build a Million- Dollar Firm(00:00:32) - Brooke Lively On The Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:16) - When You Should See Your Match Again(00:01:50) - How to Build a Law Firm on EOS(00:05:49) - How to Use EOS to Scale Your Law Firm(00:12:12) - Six Key Components to Getting Your Book Done(00:13:10) - Six Areas of Strengthening the Firm(00:14:23) - The next thing is data. And then that's.(00:15:12) - The 5 Components of a Strategic Plan(00:18:48) - Hiring in the Age of EOS(00:21:56) - How to Fill a Position(00:24:46) - The 3-Step Process for Growing Your Firm(00:28:38) - Core Values vs Accidental Values(00:31:54) - EOS: Scaling Law(00:33:37) - EOS for Law Firms: Connect with Brooke Scaling Law

    36 min

  7. FEB 12

    How One Trucking Niche Built a Law Firm Fast

    What happens when a lawyer goes all-in on a niche and builds relationships the right way? In this episode, Kevin Daisey sits down with Jordan Jones, founder of Los Angeles Truck Accident Lawyers, to unpack how he transitioned from a large Michigan firm to launching his own trucking-focused practice in California. Jordan breaks down how referrals, intentional networking, and disciplined spending helped him grow quickly without overextending his firm. They explore why trucking cases demand a different mindset, how law firm owners can avoid scaling traps, and why speaking and teaching outperform selling when it comes to long-term growth. This conversation is packed with real-world insights for managing partners navigating early-stage growth, staffing challenges, and operational maturity. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - Jordan Jones on The Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:07) - Truck Accident Lawyers: How Did We Get Connected?(00:03:17) - How To Start Your Own Law Firm on 24(00:07:49) - Starting a Business as a Web Designer(00:09:34) - Criminal Lawyer Gets Into Trucking(00:12:47) - How to Get a Deal on Your Car(00:13:02) - Truck Business: Where Are You?(00:16:28) - Ex-Truckers on Their Cases(00:17:46) - How to Win a Trucking Case(00:22:16) - What Makes a PI Lawyer So Motivated?(00:23:47) - Startups Are Worth It(00:26:55) - Jordan Jones on Speaking At Conferences

    30 min

  8. FEB 5

    Why Doing Everything Yourself Is Destroying Your Law Firm

    In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Michael Cowen, founder of Cowen Rodriguez Peacock, to break down how law firm owners can scale without burning out. Michael shares his journey from being unexpectedly thrust into firm ownership to building a multi-state practice focused on high-stakes trucking and personal injury litigation. They discuss why delegation is critical, how to hire the right people instead of doing everything yourself, and why law firm culture directly impacts marketing, intake, and long-term profitability. Michael also explains how referral-based firms must adapt to a changing digital landscape, the dangers of relying on a single marketing channel, and how law firm owners can reclaim their time while increasing firm value. If you’re a law firm owner trying to balance trial work, leadership, marketing, and quality of life, this episode delivers real-world insight you can apply immediately. Today’s episode is sponsored by Answering Legal. Click here to get started with your 400 minute free trial! https://thisisarray.com/answeringlegal/ Chapters (00:00:00) - Michael Cohen on the Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:12) - Starting Your Own Law Firm(00:02:52) - Owning Your Own Law Firm(00:06:38) - 4 Rules for More Money in the Office(00:12:09) - Letting Others Do It Their Way(00:14:00) - Law Firm Executives on Referral Marketing(00:20:04) - How to Build a Referral Based Marketing Practice(00:21:07) - Is intake important for marketing, advertising?(00:22:58) - What Can You Do to Make a Job Offer More Personal?(00:23:52) - Onboarding the Firm's Talent(00:30:03) - How to Make a Living as a Trial Lawyer(00:31:07) - Reach Out, Connect: Michael Owen(00:31:40) - Reach Out Trial Lawyer Nation Podcast

    33 min
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By tuning in to the leading business podcast for lawyers, you can discover how lawyer entrepreneurs are filling their case pipeline while growing their firms in the process. Kevin Daisey interviews today’s top law firm owners, managing partners, and legal experts who share what they’re doing to exponentially grow their law firm practices. We tackle your most pressing questions about leadership, operations, intake, finance, processes, sales, marketing, culture, and much more. The Managing Partners Podcast is hosted by Array, the thought leader in law firm digital marketing. Subscribe for the latest legal marketing insights! arraydigital.com

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