Not All Business

Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!

  1. 3d ago

    How Do You Find Your Purpose When Work Feels Wrong?

    You know your job isn't right for you anymore. But you need the paycheck, and you have no idea what comes next. How do you start moving? Lindsay Tjepkema, founder of Human Brands Win and former startup CEO, joins Heather, Blakely, and Clay to talk about one-degree decisions: small choices that move you toward success on your terms. They get into figuring out what you want, recognizing when your values are being stepped on, and using Lindsay's BRAVE framework to rethink decisions already on your plate. Heather shares a small step toward a speaking dream. Blakely reconsiders what optimism means as a company value. And everyone has something to say about following somebody else's version of success. First, college family weekend brings septum rings, parenting opinions, and a reminder that finding your people can look different than your parents expected. Key Takeaways: Where to start when you want a change but can't quit. Why figuring out what you don't want can be revealing. What a values clash at work can teach you about yourself. How BRAVE applies to decisions you're already making. When self-care leaves the bigger question unanswered Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Lindsay Tjepkema on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsaytjepkema/  Human Brands Win newsletter: https://humanbrandswin.substack.com/  Lindsay's website: https://www.lindsaytjepkema.com/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Human Brands Win, Lindsay's upcoming book about vision, values, and success on your terms: https://www.lindsaytjepkema.com/book  Actually, I Can, Lindsay's podcast, available through her website: https://www.lindsaytjepkema.com/  ThredUp, Heather's closing recommendation for secondhand shopping: https://www.thredup.com/  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: A Bag Concept: Versatile, machine-washable bags designed with an architect’s eye for women who do it all: https://abagconcept.com/ - code NotAllBusiness20 for 20% off your first order: https://abagconcept.com/discount/NotAllBusiness20  Follow A Bag Concept: https://www.instagram.com/abagconcept  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation. Keywords: career advice for women, workplace mental health, women in business, women at work, working moms, workplace drama, toxic workplace, sticky situations, not all business, Blakely Graham, Heather Cooper, Clay Carnill, career change, feeling stuck, personal values, women at work, success on your terms

  2. Oct 22

    What If Saying I Don't Understand Makes You Better at Your Job?

    How do you admit you don't understand something at work without feeling like you've just talked yourself out of the room? Rachel Downey, founder of Share Your Genius, joins Heather, Blakely, and Clay for an honest conversation about confidence, curiosity, and the stories that keep us playing small. Rachel shares how her daughter Lennon's premature birth and life with a prosthetic shaped her business and her approach to advocacy. They talk about asking questions with empathy, letting people tell their own stories, and why admitting a gap in your knowledge can help you move forward. Blakely opens up about processing differences and the cost of calling yourself the dumb blonde. Plus, Heather's funeral directors conference recap takes the opening conversation somewhere none of us expected. Key Takeaways: How to ask for help without undermining your credibility. The difference between owning your work and performing. When well-meaning curiosity turns into an uncomfortable assumption. What Rachel lets her daughter decide for herself. Why Blakely is rethinking the “dumb blonde” defense. How your own story can keep you playing small. Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Rachel Elsts Downey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelelstsdowney/  Rachel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/relsts/  Share Your Genius on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@shareyourgenius  Share Your Genius: https://shareyourgenius.com/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Share Your Genius's origin story, from Rachel's hospital experience to building a podcast business: https://shareyourgenius.com/about/  Adventures with Peggy, Rachel's children's book project inspired by Lennon's prosthetic. In editing at the time of recording. Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: A Bag Concept: Versatile, machine-washable bags designed with an architect’s eye for women who do it all: https://abagconcept.com/ - code NotAllBusiness20 for 20% off your first order: https://abagconcept.com/discount/NotAllBusiness20  Follow A Bag Concept: https://www.instagram.com/abagconcept  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation. Keywords: career advice for women, workplace mental health, women in business, women at work, working moms, workplace drama, toxic workplace, sticky situations, not all business, Blakely Graham, Heather Cooper, Clay Carnill, imposter syndrome, self advocacy, confidence at work, human connection

  3. Oct 15

    How Do You Show Up at Work When the News Hits Home?

    You still have meetings. You still have deadlines. But a story in the news has hit close to home, and you're carrying it through all of them. Heather, Blakely, and Clay have an honest, sometimes uncomfortable conversation about the heaviness women bring into work after reading the headlines. They discuss the Cornell sexual assault allegations, the Lindsay Clancy case, and the shame, fear, and stereotypes these conversations can stir up. Heather shares a frightening experience from college. Blakely reflects on parenting college-age kids and learning more about postpartum mental health. Together, they ask what support actually sounds like, how to challenge a biased comment, and where personal responsibility meets the need for better systems. There's also a debate about return-to-office mandates, childcare, and mentoring, plus Hot Pockets, planking, and a closing reminder from Sheryl Lee Ralph to stop shrinking yourself. Content note. Discussion of sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, the deaths of children, and postpartum mental illness. Key Takeaways: Listen before trying to make someone feel better. Notice what your feed keeps serving you. Challenge stereotypes when they enter the conversation. Judge coworkers as individuals, not headlines. Support working parents with flexibility and childcare. Make room for hard conversations and hope. Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Hosts: Blakely: https://www.instagram.com/blakelygraham/  Heather: https://www.instagram.com/heathercooper.nab/  Clay: https://www.instagram.com/claycarnill/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Postpartum mental health resources: https://postpartum.net/get-help/postpartum-psychosis-help/  Instagram recommendations reset: https://about.fb.com/news/2024/11/introducing-recommendations-reset-instagram/  Megyn Kelly responding to Olivia Rodrigo: https://www.instagram.com/p/DeH4XCjx2Ts/  Sheryl Lee Ralph on refusing to shrink yourself: https://www.instagram.com/p/DePGr9AqNJh/  Amanda Litman on return-to-office mandates: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8qt3u_Dx11k  Maya Angelou’s dinner-party story, discussed with Oprah: https://amarachic.wordpress.com/2018/03/24/wise-conversations-between-oprah-and-maya-angelou/  Dr. Julia Riddle on postpartum mental health, a related interview: https://www.kwbu.org/2026-08-31/postpartum-mental-health-needs-a-village  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: A Bag Concept: Versatile, machine-washable bags designed with an architect’s eye for women who do it all: https://abagconcept.com/ - code NotAllBusiness20 for 20% off your first order: https://abagconcept.com/discount/NotAllBusiness20  Follow A Bag Concept: https://www.instagram.com/abagconcept  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation. Keywords: career advice for women, workplace mental health, women in business, women at work, working moms, workplace drama, toxic workplace, sticky situations, not all business, Blakely Graham, Heather Cooper, Clay Carnill, sticky situations, women at work, mental health at work, media literacy, hope over fear

  4. Oct 8

    How to Have Difficult Conversations at Work When It's Your Friend

    Your friend helped you land a vendor. Now your company wants to end the contract, and you get to deliver the news. Who's talking, the friend or the person doing her job? Fresh from the Women of Pavilion summit in New York City, Heather and Blakely revisit the sticky situations women brought into the room. Rachel Johnson, founder of MoJo Marketing and co-lead of Women of Pavilion, joins them to share the answers she couldn't give while moderating their session. They tackle a coworker who thinks women should stay home, a promotion double standard, the pressure to learn AI, and a team that's afraid of the person trying to turn things around. Blakely also revisits her answer about AI and explains why she needed to consider the pressure facing women still in the workplace. Key Takeaways: Set boundaries with a dismissive coworker. Deliver bad news without losing a friendship. Ask for clear promotion criteria. Speak up for women who aren't in the room. Build AI skills without outsourcing your judgment. Name the problem while protecting confidential details. Check on the person holding everything together. Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Rachel Johnson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-m-johnson/  MoJo Marketing: https://mymojomarketing.com/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Pavilion: https://www.joinpavilion.com/  Women of Pavilion: https://community.joinpavilion.com/topics/28813/page/info  Conversation with Dr. Amy Diehl, author of Glass Walls: https://community.joinpavilion.com/networks/events/292979  Pavilion Women's Summit playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3wshSFNsQTWyMIfoEbaypL?si=LJcAzXPJSY-ue-Dj74F2kQ  Women in the Workplace 2025, McKinsey and LeanIn.Org research on promotion gaps: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/women-in-the-workplace  Keith Harkin, the musician Heather & Blakely met in the airport lounge: https://www.keithharkin.com/  Melissa Moody, the give and the get: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissammoody  Ginger Graham, whose advice to name the problem helps teams understand what's happening: https://gingerandbaker.com/who-we-are/  Swati Paliwal, the ReSO AI founder who led with what she could give before making her ask: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swatipaliwal1/  ReSO AI, Swati's company helping brands get discovered in AI search: https://www.linkedin.com/company/resollm-ai/  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com/  - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first order Follow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/  Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.

  5. Oct 1

    We Tried Pole Dancing. Looking in the Mirror Was the Hardest Part.

    Heather and Blakely made a promise in Episode 1: after hearing how pole dancing changed Jamie Cole's confidence and leadership, they would try it themselves. One year later, they finally showed up at Rockstar Pole Fitness with heels in hand, seven friends beside them, and no idea what they were getting into. The class was physically harder and emotionally more vulnerable than they expected. They talk about the strength behind pole, the difference between sensuality and sexuality, and the challenge of looking at themselves without immediately comparing their bodies or abilities to someone else's. They also share what happened during the freestyle portion, why Heather's video landed in the hidden folder, how Blakely found one move she could own, and what slowing down can teach leaders about power and presence. Plus, Clay reviews the footage, Heather tests a routine at home using a door, and Blakely prepares to face a bear in her backyard. Key Takeaways: Why keeping a promise can still matter when it takes a year to follow through How Jamie Cole created a welcoming space for a vulnerable first experience Why pole dancing requires strength, technique, and repeated practice The difference between trying to look sexy and connecting with your own sensuality How comparison can interrupt confidence in real time Why looking yourself in the eyes can feel harder than learning the choreography How leaning into one movement that feels good can help you find your groove Why confidence and presence are skills you can practice What moving more slowly can teach leaders about power in a room How an uncomfortable experience can change the assumptions you carry into it Follow Our Hosts: Blakely Graham on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blakelygraham/  Heather Cooper on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathercooper.nab/  Clay Carnill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/claycarnill/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Charli xcx, “Camera”: https://open.spotify.com/track/5Fdj0DtH4ZhymltyN5xEv2?si=066ac60c356547ac  Jamie Cole on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pelirroja_poles/  Rockstar Pole Fitness on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockstarpolefitness/  Revisit Episode 1 with Jamie Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ZHLd0KLYQ  P-Valley on Starz: https://www.starz.com/us/en/series/p-valley/46156  (Jamie's fictional recommendation for its portrayal of the women and people of color who pioneered modern pole dancing and continue to lead the art form through club culture) Strip Down, Rise Up on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80208242  (Jamie's documentary recommendation about pole dancing as a practice for healing and empowerment) Pole Artists Jamie Recommends Following Dan Rosen Pole on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danrosenpole/  Fiyastarta on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vjsfiyastarta/  Doris Arnold on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dorisarnoldpoledancer/  Yung Pole Master on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yungpolemaster/  Lux ATL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lux_atl/  Move with Tara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/movewithtara/  Red Ruby GoGo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/redrubygogo/  Shelastic Wolf on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shelasticwolf/  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first order Follow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/ Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/

  6. Sep 24

    Every Yes Is a No: How to Build a Business You Don't Hate

    What happens when the business you built for freedom becomes another job you cannot escape? Michelle Kuan, founder of MLKMEDIA, joins Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham to share how she built a fast-growing marketing agency and why she eventually had to make it smaller. She opens up about burnout, values-aligned leadership, and learning that every yes comes with a no. Michelle also shares how strength training helped her build confidence and value what her body could do instead of trying to make it smaller. Plus, Heather and Blakely unpack the backlash to Sydney Sweeney's sports-betting campaign. Key Takeaways: Why every yes is also a no to something else How keeping promises to yourself builds confidence and self-trust Why a profitable client can still be wrong for your business How values make difficult business decisions clearer Why throwing more money at burnout rarely addresses the structure causing it What it can look like to shrink a business in order to save yourself Why returning to your original purpose can make work meaningful again How to separate healthy ambition from the endless chase for the next number Why strong leadership includes protecting your team and learning from early mistakes How strength training helped Michelle shift her focus from appearance to performance Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Michelle Kuan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsmichellekuan/  Michelle Kuan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleliukuan  MLKMEDIA: https://mlkmedia.com/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: MLKMEDIA: https://mlkmedia.com/  (Michelle's marketing agency for health, wellness, and fitness brands) Coilie, The Modern Landline: https://coilieco.com/product  (Blakely's shareable smile) Voicemails for Isabelle on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81716219  (Michelle's shareable smile) Sydney Sweeney sports-betting ad coverage: https://www.axios.com/2026/09/18/novig-sydney-sweeney-ad-backlash-women-in-sports  ESPN The Body Issue archive: https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/27400369/the-body-issue  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first order Follow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/ Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.

  7. Sep 17

    Hurry Up and Fail: How to Turn Mistakes Into Career Proof

    What if your best career story is the one you keep trying to hide? Britt Hunter, leadership speaker and founder of Be The Exception Coaching, joins Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham to explain why young professionals and seasoned leaders alike need to hurry up and fail. Britt shows how mistakes build clarity and confidence when you stop protecting a perfect image and start getting honest about what you learned. She breaks down a failure pitch that begins with a real capability, adds the setback that tested it, and turns the lesson into a memorable introduction. The conversation also explores why getting older does not automatically make us better, how small behavior rules create useful reps, and why leaders must learn to receive feedback without immediately defending themselves. Plus, Heather checks Garth Brooks off her bucket list, the team puts its opening banter on a ten-minute timer, and everyone shares a simple source of joy worth passing along. Key Takeaways: Why failure can become proof that you are coachable How to stop waiting until you can try something perfectly Why confidence comes from reps rather than age How to build a failure pitch using a capability, a setback, and your name Why specific strengths are more memorable than generic claims like “I am collaborative” How small, measurable rules can help change social habits Why leaders need to own their actions without leading with a defensive explanation How Britt's PIVOT framework moves accountability from facts and feelings to values and action Why creators should focus on the person who needs their message instead of trying to please the whole internet How adults can normalize mistakes without giving up authority Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Britt Hunter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittbritt-hunter  Britt Hunter on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachbhunt_/  Be The Exception Coaching: https://www.betheexceptioncoaching.com/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Be The Exception Coaching: https://www.betheexceptioncoaching.com/ (Britt's leadership coaching, keynotes, workshops, and Own Your Adventure program) Britt Hunter's link hub: https://linktr.ee/BeTheExceptionCoaching  (current links for Britt's newsletter, social profiles, podcast, and ownership quiz) Garth Brooks: https://www.garthbrooks.com/  (mentioned during Heather's bucket-list story) Grizzly Rose: https://grizzlyrose.com/ (the Denver honky-tonk discussed in the opening) “Chaos Space Marine” by Black Country, New Road: https://open.spotify.com/track/2UEH1NjNHGsoEIr3GKLhNR?si=9cc4aa8bd1ce4ca3  “One Battle After Another”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/  Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first order Follow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/ Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.

  8. Sep 10

    Your Career Is a Portfolio, Not a Job

    Why is it so easy to offer help and so uncomfortable to ask for it? Melissa Moody, co-founder of Wednesday Women, joins Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham to explain why your career is bigger than your day job. She shows how to build a portfolio career around what matters in this season without turning your life into an endless list of obligations. Then Melissa introduces the give and the get. She explains how to identify what you need, turn a transactional request into a relational one, remove the hedging language, and stop talking long enough for the other person to answer. Heather and Blakely also get honest about comparison, CrossFit, writing a book, and deciding what not to do. Plus, Blakely takes us inside Olivia Rodrigo's Daisy Chain Fields festival and its lesson in how to support the next generation without disappearing. Key Takeaways: Why your career portfolio includes more than the job that pays you How to invest in a side project without turning your life into an endless list of obligations Why priorities should change across different seasons of life How comparison can make someone else's goal feel like your failure Why deciding what not to do is part of building a meaningful career How to identify a get by looking at an opportunity or a blocker How to turn a transactional request into a relational ask Why hedging words like “just” can undo a request before anyone answers How asking gives someone else the opportunity to help Why practicing rejection can make the next ask easier Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Follow Our Guest: Melissa Moody on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissammoody  Wednesday Women: https://www.wednesdaywomen.org/  Follow Not All Business: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/  Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/  Links & Mentions: Wednesday Women: https://www.wednesdaywomen.org/  (the movement and executive membership community Melissa co-founded to amplify women leaders and help them support one another) Daisy Chain Fields: https://www.daisychainfields.com/ (Olivia Rodrigo's women-led music festival supporting organizations that serve women and girls) Associated Press on Daisy Chain Fields: https://apnews.com/article/aa831e6e96d6e75f315ae35633c6cd06  (reporting on the festival's $20 million raised for 10 nonprofit partners) Women in the Workplace 2025: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/women-in-the-workplace (the McKinsey and LeanIn.Org research discussed in the episode about ambition and career support) Submit Your Sticky Situations: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first order Follow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/ Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/  Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.

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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!

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  • Creator
    Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    62
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
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    Not All Business

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