Two Peas on a Pod

Your friendships called... they want your attention.   Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer, clinical psychologist and one of the world's leading experts on adult friendship, and it's the podcast that finally takes your closest relationships as seriously as you do. Each week, Dr. Miriam takes you inside the many layers of friendship, through real conversations with best friends, expert perspectives, and deep dives into the questions we don’t always know how to ask. From conflict and change to closeness and growth, each episode offers insight and practical tools to help you show up more intentionally in your relationships. Thoughtful, curious, and revealing, Two Peas on a Pod explores the stories, science, and secrets behind how we connect, and what it really takes to feel close to the people who matter most. So pull up a chair, friend. We saved you a seat. Produced by Podcast Nation.

  1. 8h ago

    Eden Sher & Brock Ciarlelli: A Friendship Built Off Script

    What happens when the friendship that got you through growing up on a hit TV show has to survive real life once the cameras stop rolling? That's the story of Eden Sher and Brock Ciarlelli... Eden and Brock met as teenagers on the set of The Middle, playing Sue Heck and Brad Bottig for nine seasons before it became something more than a job. These days, Eden's debut comedy special, I Was On a Sitcom, is streaming, and you've probably seen Brock in Bros or Netflix's Glamorous. But nearly two decades later, they're still each other's person. Dr. Miriam sits down with two people who've spent almost twenty years proving that brutal honesty is its own love language. Eden and Brock talk about the moment vulnerability first cracked the professional wall between them, why being each other's "safety net" carried them through the identity whiplash of growing up on a hit show, and the strange, tiny "Venn diagram" of people who've seen them as both their characters and themselves. They also get into the time Brock talked Eden down mid-meltdown over a font on her comedy special poster ("It's fine. No one cares."), and why, for them, humor is its own form of vulnerability. Pull up a chair. This one will make you grateful for the friend who tells you the truth about your font choices. -- Follow your new friends: @eden_sher & @brockciarlelli Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky.   Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  2. Jul 16

    Attica & Tembi Locke: Sisters Who Chose Friendship

    What if the letter that saved your closest relationship started with "I hate you"? Meet today's Peas: Tembi Locke is a New York Times bestselling author whose memoir From Scratch inspired the popular Netflix series. Attica Locke is an acclaimed novelist (Black Water Rising, Heaven, My Home, Guide Me Home) who also helped bring her sister's memoir to the screen as showrunner on From Scratch. They're sisters first, storytellers second, and two of the most honest friends Dr. Miriam has had on the show yet. Attica and Tembi grew up sharing bedspreads and a childhood bedroom, then drifted into separate worlds: different schools, different friend groups, years where "friendship" wasn't really the word for what they had. What brought them back wasn't a conversation. It was a letter Attica wrote in her early twenties and slid under her sister's door: raw and unfiltered, and nothing like anything either of them had said out loud before. Dr. Miriam sits down with Attica and Tembi to unpack what it actually takes to rebuild a relationship you didn't choose: the individual work of unlearning thirty-year-old dynamics, the grief that resurfaced when Tembi lost her husband, and how they've become each other's first readers and closest creative collaborators, with Attica now producing the adaptation of her own novel Bluebird, Bluebird, in the role Tembi once held. Pull up a chair. This one is for anyone who's ever wanted to reach out to a sibling, or an old friend, and wasn't sure it was worth the risk of rejection. --   Follow your new friends: @tembilocke & @atticalocke   Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com  --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky.     Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  3. Jul 9

    Office Ours: Friendship Breakups (Part 2: Ghosting, Slow Fades & the Breakup Talk)

    There's no right way to end a friendship, but there is a wrong one. Dr. Miriam closes out the two-part Office Ours series on friendship breakups with the part nobody teaches us: how to actually let go of a friend. She starts with the five questions to ask yourself before deciding whether a friendship is worth saving. From there, the four ways friendships really end: the slow fade, the compartmentalized friendship, the honest breakup talk, and ghosting, the one strategy she basically never recommends (and the research on why might surprise you). And make sure to stick around for your friendly reminders! Three tools for coping with a friendship breakup, whichever side of it you're on, including the letter you write but never, ever send. This one is for anyone still waiting on closure. Because sometimes closure isn't something you receive from someone else. It's something you create. If you haven't heard Part 1 yet, start there. We'll wait. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com  --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky.   Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  4. Jul 2

    Office Ours: Friendship Breakups (Part 1: The Hurt Nobody Talks About)

    What if the hardest breakup you ever go through isn't romantic at all? If you've ever felt more heartbroken over losing a friend than a romantic partner, you are not alone, and you're definitely not overreacting. Friendship breakups don't come with a script. No agreed-upon custody battle for mutual friends, no ritual to eat ice cream and listen to a sad playlist. Just silence, and a grief most of us have never been taught to name. Dr. Miriam opens the first of a two-part Office Ours series on friendship breakups with the question underneath all the others: why does losing a friend hurt so much? She walks through the three types of friendship breakups: a sudden rupture, a slow fade, or a life transition that quietly pulls two people apart, and gets honest about a friendship from her own childhood that she wishes she'd ended sooner. Along the way, she debunks the myths that keep people stuck, and makes the case for why letting go of a friend isn't always the failure it feels like. This is for the friend you still think about, whether you lost them, left them, or just drifted somewhere in between. Just... hold off on texting it to them until you've heard next week's episode. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com  --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky.   Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  5. Jun 25

    Jamison Lange & Alaire Thomas: Creating Content & Fast Friendships

    What makes a friendship feel different from a networking lunch? Jamison Lange and Alaire Thomas know the answer, and it starts with a DM about an uncredited video, a brunch that ran four hours, and a vibe that neither of them could fully explain, but both of them immediately felt. Meet Today's Peas: Jamison is a content creator known for his viral transition videos and boundary-pushing content that blends humor, vulnerability, and creativity to challenge beauty standards and redefine masculinity. Alaire is a New York-based comedian, content creator, and podcaster whose stand-up tour, Anyway, Thank You, has been bringing her special brand of comedy to audiences nationwide. Together, they're the creative duo behind the beloved series When You're a Masc But Still a Lady, and also proof that some of the best friendships are the ones that sneak up on you. Dr. Miriam sits down with Jamison and Alaire to talk about fast friendships and what actually makes them stick: the difference between a vibe and an opportunity, the boundaries that keep their creative partnership from crowding out their connection, and what it means to feel genuinely safe with someone. Pull up a chair. This one's for everyone who's ever met someone and immediately thought, "oh, you're going to matter to me." --   Follow your new friends:  @jamison.lange & @alairethomas   Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com   --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky.     Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  6. Jun 18

    Office Ours: Modern Loss (with Rebecca Soffer)

    What if grief didn't have to be something you move through alone even when it feels like no one else could possibly understand what you're carrying?  On this episode of Office Ours, Dr. Miriam sits down with Rebecca Soffer to talk about what it really means to show up for someone who's grieving and what it means to let people show up for you. Rebecca is the co-founder of Modern Loss, a Peabody Award-winning former producer for The Colbert Report, and the bestselling author of The Modern Loss Handbook. After losing both of her parents before 33, she stopped waiting for the world to talk about grief differently and built a community to do it herself.  They get into why "let me know if there's anything I can do" almost never lands, the dinner conversation that sparked Modern Loss, and why grief isn’t a straight line, it’s a wave you learn to surf. Rebecca shares why laughing at the bat-sh*t crazy parts of loss could be what gets you through, the difference between giving someone space and creating distance, and why the loneliest experiences in life are often the ones with the most power to bring us together.   This one is for anyone who has loved and lost... Which, eventually, is all of us.  Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session.  --    Follow your new friend:  @rebeccasoffer and @modernloss   Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com   --  Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky     Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  7. Jun 11

    Pauline Chalamet, Lily Sondik & Zoe Mylonas: Across the Globe and Still Inseparable

    What does it take to keep a friendship alive across different cities, different countries, and every version of who you're becoming? Pauline Chalamet, Lily Sondik, and Zoe Mylonas have been figuring that out since they were teenagers.  Meet Today’s Peas: Pauline is an American-French actress and writer, best known for her role as Kimberly Finkle on HBO Max's The Sex Lives of College Girls. Lily is a New York-based actor, writer, and producer with credits on The Blacklist and Lioness. And Zoe is a theater actress now living in Athens, Greece, where she co-leads the nonprofit Novus Theatre Ensemble. Together, they're living proof that the right friendships don't fade with distance, they deepen.  Dr. Miriam sits down with all three (joining from New York, Paris, and Athens) for a conversation about what it really means to grow up alongside people who've known you since the beginning. They dig into the beauty and complexity of friendship trios, the creative rituals that keep them close across time zones, how physical distance doesn't have to mean emotional distance, and why presence (not proximity) is the most powerful predictor of closeness.  Pull up a chair. This one will make you want to call your people!   -- Follow your new friends: @pauline.chalamet@lsondik@zoezephyrzoe Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com  -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky  Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

  8. Jun 4

    Office Ours: The Unicorn Friend at Work (with Fahd Alhattab)

    What if the most underrated career move you could make was... making a friend?  In this Office Ours episode, Dr. Miriam sits down with Fahd Alhattab, startup workplace expert, leadership strategist, and founder of Unicorn Labs, for a conversation about why connection at work isn't a distraction from the job. It is the job. From Halloween culture shock on his first night in Canada to nearly getting impeached as student president, Fahd brings the stories, the science-adjacent takes, and a genuinely infectious enthusiasm for what great team culture can look like. Together, he and Dr. Miriam unpack workplace friendship boundaries, the myth that closeness undermines accountability, and why "hidden toxicity is just artificial harmony." Plus, the rapid-fire questioning trick that might change how you start every Monday morning. So, pull up a chair. Turns out, friendship is the job. -- Follow your new friend: @fahdalhattab Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463).  Stay in touch with us:  @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com  -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky  Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ratings & Reviews

5
out of 5
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Your friendships called... they want your attention.   Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer, clinical psychologist and one of the world's leading experts on adult friendship, and it's the podcast that finally takes your closest relationships as seriously as you do. Each week, Dr. Miriam takes you inside the many layers of friendship, through real conversations with best friends, expert perspectives, and deep dives into the questions we don’t always know how to ask. From conflict and change to closeness and growth, each episode offers insight and practical tools to help you show up more intentionally in your relationships. Thoughtful, curious, and revealing, Two Peas on a Pod explores the stories, science, and secrets behind how we connect, and what it really takes to feel close to the people who matter most. So pull up a chair, friend. We saved you a seat. Produced by Podcast Nation.

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