Downshift With Tonnika

Tonnika Haynes

Power does not always come from pushing harder. Sometimes in life and in business, the smartest move is to slow down so you can move forward with control, clarity, and intention. Just like a great driver, growth means looking ahead, preparing for the climb, and knowing when it is time to change gears.

  1. 3d ago

    Why Great Technicians Struggle as Shop Owners | Aniz Lavji & Brian Gauthier - Ep 35

    Running a shop is hard enough—you don't need your software making it harder. 😂 If you're ready for more clarity, better organization, and a smoother experience for both your team and your customers, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO What happens when automotive professionals stop trying to figure everything out alone? In this episode of Downshift with Tonnika, Tonnika Haynes sits down with Aniz Lavji and Brian Gauthier to talk about the training, relationships and hard business lessons that transformed the way they approach the automotive industry. They share how ASTA Expo helped them find mentors, strengthen their technical skills, understand their numbers and build connections that continued helping them long after the classes ended. Aniz also explains how changing his shop software and processes helped him generate 50–60% more business, while Brian shares how the people he met helped him move from feeling stuck as a technician to opening his own shop. ASTA Expo 2026 takes place September 24–26 in Raleigh, North Carolina. Use registration code DOWNSHIFT25 to save $25. Register HERE Timestamps:00:00 – Meet Aniz and Brian: two very different automotive journeys02:21 – Why neither guest had attended industry training before05:12 – Finding a way to attend despite family and financial pressures07:01 – Why the best learning often happens outside the classroom10:46 – The biggest lesson from walking into a “bigger room”13:10 – How ASTA Expo changed Tonnika’s own career and business14:32 – The software change that helped Aniz grow business by 50–60%15:58 – Working on the business instead of always working in it20:20 – Internet opinions, difficult customers and running your own shop23:11 – Pricing, boundaries and learning to say no25:25 – Why “profit is not a dirty word”31:00 – Aniz’s vulnerable first-night experience and the people who showed up36:00 – Why the relationships can matter as much as the training42:07 – How Brian went from feeling stuck to opening his own shop44:07 – Why technicians and service advisors must invest in themselves49:34 – What first-time ASTA Expo attendees can expect54:02 – Stop gatekeeping knowledge in the automotive industry59:08 – ASTA Expo dates, registration details and discount code

  2. Aug 6

    From College Basketball to Automotive Leader | Gabby Oglesby - Ep 34

    You shouldn't have to play detective just to figure out what's happening in your own shop. 😂 If you're ready for all your shop's information in one place, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO In this episode, Tonnika Haynes chats with Gabby Oglesby, Director of Product at Kukui, about her journey from college basketball to innovator in the automotive tech space. Gabby shares how her background in sports shaped her leadership style, why diversity and representation matter in the industry, and the importance of designing user-friendly products for shop owners. Timestamps:00:00 Social media confessions and TikTok addiction01:34 How basketball built Gabby’s leadership from a young age02:46 Honored in the Hall of Fame: Gabby’s journey from Guilford College to Kukui04:57 Wearing the green: The inside truth about Kukui’s infamous uniforms05:25 Four years at Kukui—bridging product creation and real shop needs06:22 From country kid to tech leadership: Gabby on moving, growing, and learning08:24 Designing products with empathy for shop owners and customers09:08 The power of community & networking at industry events10:06 How the game (and teamwork) led to a new kind of leadership at work12:25 Breaking barriers: Black women, LGBTQ+ leaders, and showing up at automotive events16:31 Why representation and village vibes make the industry stronger17:19 So many career options in auto, even if you don’t wrench18:35 Tackling imposter syndrome and showing up19:49 Being underestimated, finding your voice, and showing confidence21:30 Masculine-presenting in leadership and the importance of authenticity22:00 Parenting, adoption, and non-traditional families in auto23:08 Growing LGBTQ+ visibility at trainings—breaking old assumptions24:38 How stereotype-busting leads to stronger community25:48 The real secret: Diversity and curiosity build the best teams27:46 How Kukui builds new tech for shops—straight from owner input28:55 Toggles, choices, and making products user-friendly30:58 Keeping up with tech—old school meets new school shop culture31:19 AI, customer experience, and the tools that really matter for shop owners34:39 The loyalty program and the importance of customer retention36:06 New shops, new competition—standing out with service, not just tech38:24 Lessons from rapid change: Stick to what works, be wary of shiny new “solutions”41:00 Lasting legacy: Gabby on commitment, voice, and bringing your full self43:16 What diversity really brings to your shop—food, flavor, and unstoppable teams44:00 Why the next generation matters and why you need to be at the table44:46 Where to find Gabby, Kukui, and upcoming events

  3. Jul 30

    Who Takes Care of the Shop Owner? | JeanAnn SaintGrace - Ep 33

    Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO Anybody can run a shop. Building one that lasts? That's a whole different story. If you're ready to build smarter systems and a better experience for your team and customers, check out Tekmetric HERE In this episode, Tonnika Haynes and JeanAnn SaintGrace get real about the shop ownership journey—no sugarcoating here. JeanAnn opens up about navigating grief, burnout, and leadership after the loss of her husband, sharing how those tough lessons turned into a passion for coaching other shop owners. If you’ve ever felt like you’re celebrating your wins alone, juggling all the hats, or just need someone to unwind with who truly gets it, this episode is for you. Listen to JeanAnn's podcast "Shop Talk Her Way" here Timestamps:00:00 Why shop owners need a place to unload—the birth of Downshift01:16 JeanAnn’s background: Shop ownership, grief, and a “unicorn” sale03:39 Returning to the automotive world—coaching through loss05:47 Why longer coaching calls matter & celebrating client wins07:04 Loneliness of leadership—why owners need people to celebrate with08:13 The value of going deep: No “I’m fine” answers allowed!09:51 Balancing business and friendship—navigating tough employee situations12:34 Vision for your team: Helping employees look beyond the next paycheck14:34 Embracing differences—why everyone brings something to the table16:11 The next great idea can come from anywhere (even the “kid” tech!)18:18 Smarter people in the room: Building teams that challenge and grow18:56 The three things employees want most: Communication, recognition, input20:15 One-on-ones, “date nights,” and loving your team ‘til it’s weird21:36 Technicians and mental health: Addressing the industry’s suicide rate24:16 Shop ownership is lonely—creating spaces for real talk and support26:23 Lacking life insurance and key man insurance? Why it’s a must29:01 Burnout, overwork, and the power of letting your team support you32:39 General vs. soldier: Why owners shouldn’t always be “in the trenches”34:55 Giving yourself grace—especially when hard work doesn’t look glamorous37:52 Surviving life’s curveballs: The benefits of planning and protection43:31 Being vulnerable as a leader & building real trust/culture47:03 Celebrating the little wins—because no one claps for payroll!56:22 The heart of service: Why connections with customers matter most59:04 Becoming the “first call”—your shop as the hub of community trust1:01:25 From fixing cars to fixing lives: Jean Ann’s legacy through coaching1:04:00 You’re not alone—reaching out for community, resources, and real talk1:05:10 How to connect with JeanAnn and find your safe space to land

  4. Jul 28

    Benjie Burris's "Secret Weapon" for His Shop | Benjie and Kristy Burris - Ep 32

    Running a shop is hard enough—you don't need your software making it harder. 😂 If you're ready for more clarity, better organization, and a smoother experience for both your team and your customers, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO In this episode, Tonnika Haynes welcomes back Benjie Burris, but this time he brought who we all wanted to hear the first time. The boss! Kristy Burris. Today, they get into what it means to build legacy in the automotive repair industry. They also cover the importance of apprenticeship programs and investing in young technicians to secure the industry's future. Tonnika also unpacks the real story behind shop culture—emphasizing that true wealth isn’t just KPIs, but the impact you have on your community and the next generation. Timestamps:00:00 The pressure to go to college—and the reality for grads01:31 Why Benjie’s “secret weapon” changed the business02:46 Doing the work vs. coasting through shop coaching05:00 Kristy’s journey: from classroom to the family shop09:11 The apprenticeship program and hiring local youth13:00 Rethinking “special education”—everyone deserves a chance16:05 The unseen brilliance in non-traditional students18:28 Why degrees and diplomas aren’t the only path to success20:07 Building up people, not just technicians22:22 Real wealth: lessons you can’t measure in KPIs24:45 Are today’s kids “lazy”? Busting myths about the next generation27:44 The trap of chasing other people’s goals—set your own32:34 How mentorship changes lives (and helped Benji calm down!)36:03 Culture eats strategy for breakfast—here’s what REALLY matters42:15 Mentorship in action: the new generation leading the shop45:45 Lessons learned: why serving your community beats the bottom line48:14 Don’t bring work home—making the family business attractive51:10 Next-gen ownership: preparing your kids for leadership55:05 Giving your staff tools that don’t come from a tool truck57:00 Why feedback (and a good chicken wing) matter59:10 It’s not smoke and mirrors—shop culture you can FEEL

  5. Jul 23

    How to Build a Business While Raising a Family | Kassiady Markham - Ep 31

    You shouldn't have to play detective just to figure out what's happening in your own shop. 😂 If you're ready for all your shop's information in one place, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO In this episode, Kassiady Markham joins Tonnika Haynes to share her journey of building Phase Two Automotive alongside her husband from the ground up. Kassiady opens up about the challenges of balancing motherhood, business ownership, and overcoming setbacks—including business failures and family health crises. She emphasizes the importance of coaching for growth, setting boundaries at work, and building generational wealth for their family. Timestamps:00:00 Kassiady introduction: therapy, humor, and owning half the company01:02 Shop origins: EMT careers and turning a car hobby into a side hustle04:08 From “side gig” to baby in the office—juggling kids and business05:16 Struggles: marriage stress, foreclosure, and raising autistic children07:00 When the first business collapsed and the comeback began10:09 Taking a leap (again): Starting over with Phase Two Automotive13:32 IRS threats and the decision to take full control14:29 Stepping into leadership: Doing the books, HR, and payroll16:36 Coaching with Elite: Solving problems, boundaries, and marriage tips18:45 Why running a family business was the only way20:01 Who’s in Kassiady corner when it gets hard? Support systems23:30 How the team runs the shop (including her brother!)25:38 The crucial role of coaching in unlocking new growth27:20 The vision: generational wealth, success goals, and involving the kids30:35 Lessons learned: “It’s not a bad life—just a bad day.”32:01 Setting work boundaries and prioritizing family34:19 Therapy as self-care; keeping the marriage strong39:05 Parenting philosophies and supporting kids to adulthood41:14 Leading as the only woman in the shop: standing firm43:19 Customer confrontations and not backing down44:50 Real advice for women running shops or helping husbands50:39 Discounting, boundaries, and protecting the shop’s future54:49 Giving back to the community—doing good when it matters56:29 Expansion goals: property headaches and future shop dreams60:08 Rapid fire: first car, dream car, entrepreneurship in one word61:49 Biggest lesson: Wishing they’d started coaching sooner62:13 Why she’ll never be without a business coach

  6. Jul 21

    The Mistake That's Costing Your Shop Money | Nick Yannessa & Chi Wong - Ep 30

    Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO Anybody can run a shop. Building one that lasts? That's a whole different story. If you're ready to build smarter systems and a better experience for your team and customers, check out Tekmetric HERE In this episode, Tonnika welcomes Nick Yannessa & Chi Wong to talk about how they started a auto repair shop. Nick brought up how he thinks it's dangerous to judge customers based on their car or background—presenting recommendations equally is key for success. They all discuss the importance of efficiency and processes, especially for one-person operations, with strategies ranging from shop layout to streamlined part sourcing. The discussion explored how relationships—whether through peer support, coaching, or personal connection with customers—can make or break both morale and business success. Timestamps:00:00 Growing up in the business, judging customers & learning not to assume03:00 The wild origin story of a Philly-area repair friendship07:00 Shop ownership journeys: from dealer frustration to Craigslist finds13:15 Shop expansions, partnerships, and the big pains of growing fast16:30 Management mistakes: Getting hurt by the wrong coaching advice22:30 Why shop friendships (and roasting each other) drive real growth26:00 Breaking out of the tech mindset — why process & sales skills matter35:00 Single bay or big staff? How to thrive as a one-man show41:30 Efficiency hacks: leg surgery for your shop layout47:00 The power of batching tasks, double-dipping on equipment, and finding your warehouse51:00 Bootstrapping a new shop, from free desks to Techmetric (or not)59:00 Real-life sales training: How to pitch brakes and win trust1:12:00 Dealership vs. Indie: Why premium service isn’t just about the brand1:20:00 Body shop margins, insurance games, and why service rocks1:33:00 The secret sauce: Making your shop unforgettable1:39:00 Building trust over time (without a single DVI)1:44:00 Health, happiness, and generational wealth—success beyond KPIs1:46:00 Why driving a free CR-V might beat flexing a Cadillac1:52:00 Building benefits for your people, and leveling up your future1:58:00 Final rants and why you need to be the “dive bar” your customers love

  7. Jul 16

    The Shop Owner Comparison Trap | Anders Gustafson - Ep 29

    Running a shop is hard enough—you don't need your software making it harder. 😂 If you're ready for more clarity, better organization, and a smoother experience for both your team and your customers, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO In this episode, Tonnika Haynes welcomes Anders Gustafson to discuss the real journey of shop ownership, from humble beginnings to scaling up. Anders shares the challenges of starting a shop with little experience, reflecting on the lessons learned from opening a second location and the importance of picking the right spot. Together, they get real about the mental toll of comparing yourself to others on social media, the need for community and coaching in the automotive industry, and why self-growth matters more than flashy online wins. Timstamps:00:00 The Comparison Trap: Social Media and Shop Owner Wins01:26 East Coast Roots: Moving for a Dream02:15 Breaking into Automotive: From Office Job to Shop Life03:38 U-Hauls & Humble Beginnings—Opening Shop in Virginia07:27 Location Matters! Lessons from Two Stores11:01 Second Location Struggles & Mistakes14:36 Going It Alone: The Cost of Not Getting Industry Support17:32 Social Media: More Harm Than Good?19:02 Measuring Growth: Why the Only Race is With Yourself25:02 Teaching & Tectonic: How Humor Changes the Game28:23 Tech-Enabled Services: ShopLevers Explained32:46 Business Partners: Horror Stories & Happy Endings37:04 Boondoggling Across the Globe: Adventures Post-Shop Life41:40 Real Shop Drama: Roller Coasters, Jabronis & Jalopies44:00 The Power of Coaching, Training, and Community46:53 From Fear to Freedom: Finding Your Shop Owner Tribe49:01 Shop Ownership = Roller Coaster (and Why You Should Love It)52:44 Google Reviews, Value, and Standing Your Ground

  8. Jul 14

    What Nobody Warns You About Shop Ownership | Andrew Klement & Caleb McElmurry - Ep 28

    You shouldn't have to play detective just to figure out what's happening in your own shop. 😂 If you're ready for all your shop's information in one place, check out Tekmetric HERE Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO In this episode, Tonnika Haynes sits down with Andrew Klement and Caleb McElmurry to dive into the realities of young shop ownership in the automotive industry. Andrew and Caleb talk candidly about their rough starts, the importance of being profitable (and actually charging the right prices), and how building a supportive community has made all the difference. Timestamps:00:00 Young shop owners introduce themselves, plant mom stories, and moving from mobile to brick-and-mortar04:36 Caleb describes his dealership beginnings, lessons from a used car lot, and why integrity matters06:35 Andrew shares his “started from the lawnmower” story, learning on the job, and meeting the right mentors12:27 Why both left bad bosses and how they leveled up their skills13:55 Building a customer base: overcoming $20 repair mindsets and finding the right clients17:15 The hardest part of moving from technician to owner—payroll, pricing, and pressure21:21 Learning to price (and value!) your work: Big mistakes shop owners make25:28 What it actually means to take care of your community—and yourself34:12 Balancing family and business: honest talk about shop life with kids39:16 The shop mistake neither will EVER repeat again43:03 Coaching, community, and why there’s no single right way to win in this business57:00 Are you building a legacy? Talking new generations and what it means for your shop1:01:50 What to know before you open your own shop (spoiler: it’s harder than you think!)1:16:10 Why undercharging and sacrificing profit is hurting everyone in the industry1:21:55 Being proud of what you’ve built—yes, you deserve that truck!1:29:12 Marketing in small towns & finding the customers who value your shop1:33:09 There’s more than one way to run a shop—and that’s okay1:39:09 Real talk: mental health, community, and lifting each other up in the industry1:44:01 Wrapping up: finding your people, making it your own, and why the journey is worth it

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Power does not always come from pushing harder. Sometimes in life and in business, the smartest move is to slow down so you can move forward with control, clarity, and intention. Just like a great driver, growth means looking ahead, preparing for the climb, and knowing when it is time to change gears.

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