The Dad Edge Podcast

Larry Hagner

The Dad Edge Podcast is a movement. It is a strong community of Fathers who all share a set of values. Larry Hagner, founder of The Dad Edge, breaks down common challenges of fatherhood, making them easy to understand and overcome. Tackling the world of Fatherhood can be a daunting task when we try to do it alone. The mission of The Dad Edge Podcast is to help you become the best, strongest, and happiest version of yourself so that you can help guide your kids to the best version of themselves. Simple as that. Everything you need and all of our resources can be found at thedadedge.com/podcast

  1. 1D AGO

    Knowing Your Non-Negotiables Before You Say "I Do" Again

    In this episode, Larry and Uncle Joe are back for another live Q&A with real men from the Dad Edge Alliance bringing their real questions. This one goes deep — and fast. The first question comes from a man walking through divorce he didn't want, trying to reconcile his faith with a marriage that's falling apart. Joe has lived this exact story — fasting, praying, sleeping in a separate bedroom for 18 months, doing everything he could — and speaks into it with the kind of wisdom that only comes from having actually been there. Larry adds his own perspective, including the heartbreaking story of losing a son to trisomy 13, and what he learned about God's ability to redeem even the worst seasons of life. The second question comes from Shepherd — a man who is newly divorced, in a new relationship seven months in with a wonderful woman of faith, but feeling the friction of competing priorities: his kids, her desire to be put first, a potential reverse vasectomy, and the nagging question of whether this is really the right person. Joe and Larry both weigh in with hard, loving, and deeply honest answers — including Joe's own cautionary tale about getting into a relationship too fast after a divorce, and the painful price his kids paid because of it. This is one of those Q&A episodes where every man in the audience will see himself in at least one of these questions.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:02] Welcome to the Q&A — and a quick shoutout to the new Dad Edge shop [2:15] Question 1 — Anonymous: I'm a Christian going through a divorce I didn't want. My wife is a strong believer too. I need guidance. [2:34] Joe's answer: his own experience going through divorce as a believer, sleeping in a separate bedroom for 18 months, and what he learned [4:10] Being a follower of Christ and being a mature follower of Christ are two completely different things [5:37] Seeking the one with your two — how Joe and Ivy operate their marriage around loyalty to Christ first [6:50] The A plus B equals C equation with God — and why that theology will wreck you [7:37] What Joe would do differently: stop panicking, stop pushing, and focus on maturing as a man [10:01] Larry's perspective: it's okay to be angry with God — Father Stephen Gadberry on The Sean Ryan Show [13:11] God removes things we think are good for us — and sometimes this is a preparation for something better [14:39] Larry's story: losing a son to trisomy 13 in 2014, the decision to keep the baby, and the stillbirth at 22 weeks [17:33] Standing in that bathroom, looking up, and asking God why — and what came out of that season [18:00] Joe's response: our father redeems everything — even the worst stuff [19:39] Joe's own three marriages — and how God used all of it [20:08] Living a life you don't deserve — Joe's reflection on grace, mercy, and what he gets to enjoy today [21:28] Joe shares a personal health challenge he's currently walking through — and why his mercies being new every morning is not just a saying [23:21] Question 2 — Shepherd: I'm seven months into a new relationship after divorce. She wants to be put first over my kids. I'm at a crossroads. [28:13] Joe's answer: she doesn't have kids, so there's a disconnect — and until there's a covenant, your kids come first [29:58] The conversation you need to have now — not after you say I do [31:09] How Joe met Ivy — determined never to remarry, then God showed up anyway [32:23] Larry's take: know your non-negotiables before you go further — and be honest about what they are [35:08] This is what you signed up for — and if you love me, this is the way it's going to be [36:17] Joe's red flags: she's pushing for the covenant before it's time, and the reverse vasectomy conversation deserves serious prayer [37:18] Joe's cautionary tale: getting into a relationship too fast after divorce — and the price his kids paid [40:11] His kids paid a high price for his lack of wisdom — proceed with caution, pray first [41:04] There's wisdom in many counselors — and the value of having brothers who aren't afraid to call out your blind spots   Five Key Takeaways Being a follower of Christ and being a mature follower are two different things. Maturity in faith means loyalty to the covenant even when feelings don't support it. God doesn't owe you C just because you did A and B. The A plus B equals C equation with God will wreck you. His heart for you is good — even when life isn't. It's okay to be angry at God. Tell him. He already knows. And he meets us in our deepest, most honest emotions — not in the polished version. When you're newly divorced and entering a new relationship, proceed with caution. Get into your kids, get into your faith, and make sure your inside world is where it needs to be before you attach to someone new. Know your non-negotiables before you go further in any relationship — and have the hard conversations now, not after you say I do.   Links & Resources Dad Edge Alliance & Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Dad Edge Shop: https://thedadedge.com/shop Father Stephen Gadberry on The Sean Ryan Show — search on YouTube Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1462): https://thedadedge.com/1462   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: God redeems everything — even the stuff that feels like it's destroying you right now. Joe went through divorce as a believer, three times, watching his kids pay a price for his lack of wisdom. Larry stood in a bathroom watching his son be born still, looking up and asking why. And both of them are sitting here today telling you it gets better — not because life got easier, but because God's mercies are new every morning and all things really does mean all things. If you're in a dark season right now, don't go through it alone. Lean into the brothers around you and let them speak into your blind spots. Go out and live legendary.

    45 min
  2. 3D AGO

    Winning the Week Without the Hustle Culture featuring Demir Bentley

    In this episode, I sit down with Demir Bentley — Wall Street analyst turned productivity coach, co-founder of Life Hack Method, author of Winning the Week, and dad of three daughters under six. This one goes deep on two things most dads desperately need: a better system for planning their week, and a real conversation about what it means to raise confident, loved daughters. Demir opens up about his time on Wall Street — 80 to 100 hour weeks, a hustle culture identity so baked in he didn't know who he was without it — and the health crisis that forced him to change everything. His digestive system began shutting down, he required three surgeries, and his doctors told him to cut his hours below 40 or face serious consequences. That pressure produced the Winning the Week method — a simple, three-pillar planning framework that helped him get the same work done in a fraction of the time. We break down exactly how to run a real planning session — a calendar interrogation, not a calendar review — and why your calendar is lying to you right now. We get into why planning on Friday instead of Sunday is a game changer, what open loops are doing to your brain on the weekend, and how sharing the mental load with your wife is one of the most important leadership moves a man can make at home. And then Demir drops one of the most memorable parenting concepts this show has ever heard: the idea of being the Keeper of Vibes — not just the lowest heartbeat in the room, but the painter of the energy canvas your family lives inside every day.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:02] Introducing Demir Bentley — Wall Street to lifestyle design, productivity coach, dad of three daughters [3:38] Freedom as a core value — and why Demir's shirt and hair are a statement, not an accident [5:00] Being a girl dad — and Larry's experience running a daddy daughter retreat with men who had never lit up like that before [8:33] Demir's slow start to fatherhood — and why a phone call from a friend before his first daughter was born may have saved him [10:44] What Winning the Week is — and where it came from [11:04] Wall Street, hustle culture, and the religion of outworking the competition [13:30] The health crisis that changed everything — salaryman sudden death syndrome, three surgeries, and a doctor telling him to cut his hours in half [14:36] Who am I if I'm not the guy who works 100 hours a week — the identity crisis behind the health crisis [20:22] How the Winning the Week method was born out of raw necessity [23:31] Pillar one — the calendar interrogation: your calendar is lying to you and here's how to catch it [26:47] Pillar two — real prioritizing: if there's no tear in your eye when you're cutting things, you're not cutting enough [27:27] Pillar three — the task list: stop hiding your commitments and start owning your time supply [28:53] Marrying the tasks to the calendar — the test fit that tells you if you have 10 pounds of priorities in a 5 pound bag [31:06] Start from the top down — your values first, then your calendar, then your priorities [31:28] The number one complaint wives have about their husbands — and how planning fixes it [33:06] Sharing the mental load and invisible labor — the new definition of leadership at home [36:35] Leading by example: how planning together on Friday beats planning together Sunday night [37:18] The team huddle — how Demir and his wife plan separately then align on a walk together [39:24] Why good planning still produces anxiety — and why meeting after the sigh changes everything [42:49] Why your brain won't let go of the weekend — open loops, unfinished sentences, and the science behind Sunday dread [44:35] Why planning on Friday instead of Sunday gives you your whole weekend back [46:39] Switching gears to daughters — what it really means to raise strong, confident girls [47:10] The Keeper of Vibes — Demir's most important role as a dad and the canvas he's painting every single day [49:47] Be the thermostat, not the thermometer — and what it means to hold the energy space for your whole family   Five Key Takeaways Your calendar is lying to you. Every meeting, every drive, every task takes longer than you think. A real planning session is a calendar interrogation — sweat every entry until it's honest. Real prioritizing hurts. If you're not cutting things that matter to you, you're not prioritizing — you're just rearranging. The hard tradeoffs are the whole point. Open loops kill your weekends. When you leave Friday without closing the week, your brain keeps the loop running — on date night, on the couch, in the middle of the night. Plan on Friday and actually rest. Sharing the mental load is modern leadership. Your wife shouldn't be the only one holding the calendar of family life. Taking full ownership of even one domain — sports, appointments, whatever — changes the entire dynamic at home. Be the Keeper of Vibes. You are not just the lowest heartbeat in the room. You are the painter of the energy canvas your family lives inside. What are you painting every day?   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Dad Edge Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind Winning the Week by Demir Bentley: https://winningtheweek.com Life Hack Method Website: https://lifehackmethod.com Life Hack Method Free Training: https://lifehackmethod.com Follow Demir on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifehackmethod_/ Follow Demir on Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/demirandcarey/ Follow Demir on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/demirbentley/ Life Hack Method on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LifehackBootcamp Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1461): https://thedadedge.com/1461   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: you cannot lead what you don't plan, and you cannot be present for the people you love if your brain is still stuck in last week. Demir went from 100 hour weeks and a body that was shutting down to building a life centered on freedom, family, and intention. The method isn't complicated. The calendar interrogation, the real prioritization, the task fit — it's thirty minutes on a Friday that gives you your whole life back. And then there's the canvas. What energy are you painting into your home every single day? Because your kids and your wife are living inside that painting whether you're intentional about it or not. Go out and live legendary.

    55 min
  3. 6D AGO

    Your Kids Aren't Trying to Give You a Hard Time (They're Having a Hard Time) featuring Jon Fogel

    In this episode, I sit down with Jon Fogel — pastor, dad of four, PhD candidate in developmental psychology, and bestselling author of Punishment Free Parenting. Jon is one of those rare guys who can make you laugh so hard you forget you're learning some of the most important parenting insights you've ever heard. We open with chaos — including the time his wife went into labor at Goodwill, insisted on finishing the bathroom tile and installing a toilet before going to the hospital, and the time Jon almost missed the birth of his fourth child because he stopped for Jimmy John's on the way back. But then it gets real. Jon breaks down why punishment doesn't work — not as a philosophy, but as brain science. When you punish a child, you activate the threat response system, which is the exact part of the brain that shuts off learning. We dig into what to do instead, the landmark Bobo doll experiment proving kids follow the behavior of the men in their lives above everyone else, and how rupture and repair actually builds stronger relationships than if you'd never messed up at all. Jon also walks us through Set My Feelings Free — his kids' book packed with emotional regulation games you can start using today to stop tantrums before they start.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission [1:02] Introducing Jon Fogel — pastor, author, PhD candidate, and Whole Parent [6:07] Why the parenting space desperately needs more men in it [14:02] Jon's family — and the birth stories that will make you lose it [26:12] Why Jon goes calm in a crisis but loses it over spilled milk [45:34] The core message of Punishment Free Parenting — brain science, not philosophy [49:12] Kids don't have the same negativity bias as adults — they want to see you in the best light [50:18] Your kids aren't trying to give you a hard time — they're having a hard time [51:07] Rupture and repair — why messing up and fixing it builds the strongest bonds [55:39] The dad buried in his phone is a bigger problem than the dad who sometimes loses his temper [57:42] The Still Face Experiment — and what a parent staring at a phone really communicates [1:00:37] The Bobo doll experiment — kids follow the men in their lives above everyone else [1:03:37] You don't have to fix your kids. Fix yourself. Your kids are fine. [1:09:08] Why punishment shuts off the brain's learning system — and what to do instead [1:17:16] Get Curious, Not Furious — the question every parent needs to ask [1:20:12] The Doctor House analogy — stop managing symptoms, find the underlying problem [1:24:05] Set My Feelings Free — emotional regulation games disguised as fun [1:29:34] Why you should never check under the bed for the monster   Five Key Takeaways Punishment activates the threat response system — the part of the brain that shuts off learning. Relationship and curiosity do the actual teaching. Your kids are almost never trying to give you a hard time. They're having a hard time and you're witnessing it. Get curious, not furious. The Bobo doll experiment proved it — kids follow the behavior of the men in their lives above everyone else. Fix yourself. Your kids are fine. Every time you mess up and genuinely repair it, the relationship gets stronger than it was before. Rupture and repair builds the deepest bonds. Kids solve problems through play. When screens replace play, they lose their primary tool for processing the hard stuff — and we're modeling that every time we reach for our phones.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates Join the Dad Edge Mastermind: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Punishment Free Parenting by Jon Fogel: Available wherever books are sold Set My Feelings Free by Jon Fogel: Available wherever books are sold Whole Parent Academy: https://wholeparentacademy.com Follow Jon on Instagram: @wholeparent Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1460): https://thedadedge.com/1460   Closing You cannot punish your kids into becoming who you want them to be — and you can't punish yourself into becoming the parent you want to be either. Get curious before you get furious. Repair when you rupture. Model what you want to see. And give your kids the tools to regulate themselves when the world gets hard — because you won't always be there, but the way you showed them how to handle it will be. Go out and live legendary.

    1h 34m
  4. APR 1

    The Real Reason Most Men Feel Behind & Start Drifting & What to Do About It Starting Today

    In this solo episode, Larry gets straight to the point: the reason most men feel stuck isn't a lack of motivation — it's a lack of direction. Not the five-year-plan kind of direction, but the daily kind. What are you building in your marriage right now? What are you doing this week to move the needle? Because if you don't choose a direction, life will choose one for you — and it's usually the one that leaves you reactive, exhausted, and quietly frustrated. Larry shares what's coming up in the Dad Edge community in April, breaks down what the Alliance is really about in plain English, and makes the case for why this is the moment to stop consuming content and start executing. He also announces the first ever First Form Dad of the Month — a man in the Alliance who has been quietly doing the work, keeping his promises to himself, and leading from the front without making a big deal about it. This one is short, direct, and worth every minute.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:02] The real reason most men feel stuck — it's not motivation, it's direction [1:45] What happens when you don't choose a direction and life chooses one for you [2:01] What's coming up in the Dad Edge community — events, programs, and announcements [3:02] The Men's Forge event — what it is, who it's for, and why it's not a hype fest [4:44] Why being in a room with the right men changes everything [5:44] The April theme inside the Alliance — purpose, direction, and leadership for men [6:06] The real reason men fail — not laziness, but an unclear target [7:04] What the Alliance actually is in plain English — brotherhood, plans, execution, and no egos [7:58] What April inside the Alliance looks like — getting clear on what you actually want and building a weekly rhythm that makes winning normal [9:22] What men who show up and do the work actually experience — no longer feeling behind, making faster decisions, becoming more consistent at home [10:07] The Roommates to Soulmates preview call — April 1st at 7pm Central — who it's for and what to expect [11:43] Announcing the first ever First Form Dad of the Month — Jason Rowe — and why he earned it [13:05] First Form product spotlight — Magic Charms, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and Red Velvet Cake flavors [15:09] Closing message — the world is loud, drift is real, and today is the day to do one thing your future self will thank you for   Five Key Takeaways You're not stuck because you're lazy. You're stuck because your target is blurry. When direction gets fuzzy, discipline gets fuzzy right along with it. If you don't choose a direction on purpose, you'll drift toward whatever is loudest and most urgent — and you'll look up one day and realize you've been living the same week for five years. The Alliance is not a vent session. It's men telling the truth, getting tactical, and leaving every call with something they can actually execute. Winning becomes normal when you're focused. Consistency over time beats motivation every single time. Do one thing today that your future self will thank you for. That's it. That's the whole assignment.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Dad Edge Alliance & Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind First Form Supplements: https://1stphorm.com/dadedge Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1459): https://thedadedge.com/1459   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: direction is a decision, and today is the day to make it. The world is loud. The fires are always burning. And it is incredibly easy to spend your whole life responding instead of building. But the men who are winning at home — in their marriages, with their kids, in their health — are not the ones who figured out some secret. They're the ones who got clear, got consistent, and chose the right room. Don't let April be another month on autopilot. Go out and live legendary.

    17 min
  5. MAR 30

    The Alarms Holding Men Back From Their Greatest Life featuring Matthew McConaughey

    In this episode, I sit down with Matthew McConaughey — Oscar-winning actor, author of the bestselling memoir Greenlights, and a man who thinks about fatherhood, legacy, and what it means to truly live with the same intensity he brings to everything else. This is not a conversation about Hollywood. It's about what it means to be a man and a father who doesn't half-ass the most important things in his life. Matthew opens up about his own father — a larger-than-life man who taught him three rules that shaped everything: don't say can't, don't hate, and don't lie. We get into the stories behind each of those lessons, the "don't half-ass it" moment when Matthew told his dad he wanted film school instead of law school, and what it takes for a father to recognize that his son has made up his mind — not asking permission, but declaring a direction. We also talk about Camilla, taking his kids everywhere he goes on set, and why three older actors all told him the same thing: they chose work over family time and would do it differently if they could. Then there's the passage from Greenlights that stopped Larry mid-workout — about living your legacy now, and the idea that most of us don't fly too close to the sun. We don't fly nearly high enough. Our alarms go off too early. This one is timeless.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:02] Why this replay is one of the top ten episodes in Dad Edge history [2:18] What Matthew hoped would come from this conversation: waking men up to what being a dad really means [4:29] What brings Matthew joy: bringing people together and watching them build their own independent friendships [6:31] The role most relative to who he is as a husband and father — and why his family has always come with him on every job [8:52] Camilla's one condition before they started a family: "You go, we go" [11:02] Three older actors all said the same thing: they chose work over family, and they regret it [12:39] The 80% statistic: most of your one-on-one time with your kids is gone by the time they're 12 [14:00] Fatherhood is a verb — on screen time, saying no with love, and why the easy answer is almost always the wrong one [18:33] The birds and bees talk from his father: a lesson about respect for women that stuck word for word [20:34] Don't say can't — the lawnmower story and the lesson that there's always another way [21:57] Don't hate — saying "I hate you" at his own birthday party, and what happened next [22:28] Don't lie — the stolen pizza, four chances to tell the truth, and what Matthew actually remembers [24:10] "Don't half-ass it" — the film school conversation and what it means when a father hears conviction in his son's voice [28:04] His dad was alive for just five days into Matthew's first acting job — the first thing he committed to that wasn't a fad [30:55] How Matthew pursues Camilla in the middle of kids, career, and constant demands on his time [35:26] Why Matthew and Camilla go on dates every week — and what they tell the kids about why mom and dad go alone [35:43] The passage from Greenlights that stopped Larry in the gym: "Live my legacy now" [38:33] The inverted Icarus problem: most of us don't fly too close to the sun — our alarms go off way too early [41:59] The science in the rearview mirror — how everything connects, even the things that looked like mistakes [42:36] Ten years from now: what Matthew hopes to be celebrating with his family   Five Key Takeaways Fatherhood is a verb, not a label. It's not about helping make the baby — the work starts after. Teaching, shepherding, saying no, explaining why — that is the job. The three rules Matthew's father gave him — don't say can't, don't hate, don't lie — are not just household rules. They are the weapons a man needs to negotiate the world. When your child comes to you convicted — not asking permission, but declaring a direction — your job as a father is to recognize that and say "don't half-ass it." Most of us don't fly too close to the sun. Our alarms go off too early. We put a ceiling on our own potential before we've even started to soar. Your marriage needs intentional pursuit — even in the busiest seasons of parenting. It doesn't just hold itself.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey: https://a.co/d/017KxpPw Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1458): https://thedadedge.com/1458   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: stop waiting for the right moment to live your legacy — it's already happening right now. Matthew McConaughey's father gave him three rules, one five-second pause, and a standard he's been carrying ever since. Don't say can't. Don't hate. Don't lie. Don't half-ass it. The men whose kids will remember them the way Matthew remembers his dad are the ones who show up every day knowing that fatherhood is not a label you earn once. It's a verb you live out in a thousand small moments that add up to everything. If this episode hit you where it needed to, share it with a father who needs the reminder. Go out and live legendary.

    51 min
  6. MAR 27

    Why the Best Dad Moments Are Never the Ones You Planned featuring Joe Gatto

    In this episode, I sit down with Joe Gatto — comedian, founding member of Impractical Jokers, author, and one of the most genuinely funny and surprisingly deep guys I've ever had on this show. Yes, we laugh. A lot. But what surprised me most about this conversation is how quickly it got real. Joe lost his dad to pancreatic cancer at 19 years old — and watching his father face death with grace, humor, and a smile on his face left an imprint on Joe that shaped everything: the man he became, the dad he is today, and even the comedy career that followed. We get into marriage and how humor can be the glue that holds a couple together through a tumultuous season — but also how humor can become a way to avoid the conversations that actually need to happen. Joe is honest that the last couple of years have been tough, and he talks about learning to know when it's time to stop laughing and start talking. And Joe's kids' book — Where Is Barry? — gets the full story: how his son Remo losing his stuffed animal one night turned into a beautifully illustrated book about calming down, thinking logically, and handling life's little chaos moments.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:01] Introducing Joe Gatto — Impractical Jokers, touring comedian, author, and a guy who's way more real than you'd expect [4:23] Growing up in Staten Island: big Italian family, big backyard, and a nerdy kid who quizzed his dad with encyclopedia multiple choice tests [5:40] How comedy shaped Joe's childhood — Home Improvement, Mel Brooks, Jim Carrey, and movie nights with dad [8:10] The relationship with his dad — and losing him to pancreatic cancer at just 19 years old [10:00] His dad's response to the diagnosis: "Get a fake ID, we're going to Vegas" [11:02] What it was like to be in the ambulance when his father passed — and the smile on his face at the very end [13:16] Larry's reflection: "You had more of a dad in 19 years than a lot of men have in a lifetime" [14:20] How Joe's dad shaped the comedian, the father, and the man he is today [15:02] Joe's new tour Let's Get Into It — tracing his journey from a geeky kid with no friends to who he is now [16:23] The iconic memory: dad comes home in a full suit, kids are in the pool — and he just jumps in [17:21] How Joe recreated that exact moment for his own kids without even planning it [18:36] What Joe's kids would say about him if you asked them without him in the room [19:37] His 9-year-old daughter who wants to be a DJ — and why Joe said yes without hesitation [20:06] His 7-year-old son who asks questions like "why is the middle finger bad?" — and how Joe handled it [24:08] The origin story of Impractical Jokers — day jobs, a bartender, a firefighter, and four friends doing comedy for fun [33:24] The important line: humor can hold you together, but there's a time to stop laughing and start talking [35:09] Where Is Barry? — the children's book inspired by his son Remo losing his stuffed animal [38:48] Joe's son's first reaction to the finished book: "Where's Milana? My sister should be in it too" [39:25] Why Joe believes teaching kids to cope with adversity is the number one job of a parent [41:22] Leading by example: how kids see everything, reflect everything, and learn how to handle life by watching you [42:06] Separating emotion from response — and catching things when they're little, not when they're boulders [42:43] Why Joe always apologizes to his kids — and why he never says "because I said so" [47:05] Joe's advice: surround yourself with people who make you better, and be the person who brings others up [48:19] On balance: it's impossible — just be where you are, and say yes to the five minutes that matter most   Five Key Takeaways The moments your kids will remember forever aren't the big planned ones — they're the split-second decisions to jump in the pool in a full suit. Be present for the small moments. Humor is a powerful connector in marriage and family — but it has to know its place. There's a time to laugh through things together and a time to put the jokes down and have the real conversation. Teaching your kids to cope with adversity is the single most important job you have as a parent. Not grades. Not manners. Coping — because you won't always be there, but their ability to handle life will be. Never say "because I said so." If you can't explain why you're making a decision, question whether you're making the right one. Kids deserve a reason, and giving one builds trust. Balance is a myth. You can't do everything equally all the time. But you can be fully where you are — and say yes to the five minutes your kid is asking for, because those five minutes will be the best part of their day.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Where Is Barry? by Joe Gatto — available on Amazon Follow Joe Gatto on Instagram: @joe_gatto Joe Gatto's website: https://www.joegattoofficial.com/ Episode Link & Resources (Episode 491): https://thedadedge.com/491   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the moments that shape your kids forever are usually the ones you almost didn't take. Joe Gatto watched his dad jump into a pool in a full suit on a summer evening — a split-second decision that Joe still talks about decades later. And without even thinking about it, Joe recreated that same moment for his own kids when they called him away from work. Three minutes. Full clothes. Right in. That is the legacy. That is what your kids will tell their kids about. You don't have to be perfect. You don't have to have all the answers. You just have to show up, say yes when it counts, and teach them how to handle life when you're not around to help. If this episode made you laugh and think — which it will — share it with a dad who needs both today. Go out and live legendary.

    52 min
  7. MAR 25

    Guiding Your Kids Toward Faith Without Forcing It

    In this episode, I'm joined by my co-host Uncle Joe for one of our live Q&A sessions — where real men from the Dad Edge Alliance bring their real questions, and we do our best to give them real, honest answers. This one covers a lot of ground. We open with a powerful question from Rich — a man who spent nearly 30 years as an agnostic, gave his life to Christ six months ago, and now wants to know how to lead his 11 kids toward faith without forcing it on them. Joe brings wisdom from his own walk, and I share a deeply personal story about going to church with my son Ethan — how one pastor's offhand comment cracked something open in me, and how an honest, vulnerable conversation in a car changed the entire trajectory of my relationship with my son around faith. The second question is one that hits close to home for a lot of men in this community: when things have been bad in your marriage for a long time and you finally start getting wins — how do you avoid going complacent? Joe and I both dig into this one from personal experience. Joe speaks to the PTSD that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage, how fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the very progress you've worked so hard for, and why faith — not fear — has to lead. I talk about consistency, keeping the sword sharp, and why marriage is exactly like the gym. We close with a bonus coaching moment on communication — why "you make me feel" is a conversation grenade, and how to ask for clarity in a way that actually works.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:01] Welcome to the Q&A — live questions from real Dad Edge Alliance members [1:42] Reminder: Roommates to Soulmates Cohort preview call on April 1st at 7pm Central [2:50] Question 1 — Rich: I gave my life to Christ six months ago after 30 years as an agnostic. How do I lead my older kids toward faith without forcing it? [6:07] Joe's answer: You lead by example, walking it out in front of them — including when you fail and change course [8:33] Joe's story: his son Colin told his wife "the dad I have now is not the dad I had ten years ago" [9:21] The power of community in faith — why you cannot walk this walk alone [9:55] What Joe does every two weeks: a Zoom Bible study with his entire grown family [11:02] Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world — get your inside right first [13:47] Larry's answer: his personal journey from cultural Catholic to full believer — and what changed in the last year [15:17] The situation with Larry's son Ethan — a controversial church, a girlfriend pushing conversion, and how Larry navigated it without muscling him [16:35] How Larry approached it: curiosity over control — asking questions instead of issuing warnings [17:14] Larry goes to church with Ethan and hears a pastor say: "I had a great dad — but I had to find God by myself" [19:12] The conviction that hit Larry on the way home: "I'm failing you just like his dad failed him" [21:33] The honest conversation in the car — and Ethan's response that Larry never expected [23:10] How Larry invited Ethan into a Bible study as a fellow learner, not a teacher — and what it has done for their relationship [25:22] Question 2 — Anonymous: When things have been bad for years and you finally start getting wins in your marriage, how do you avoid getting complacent? [25:56] Larry's answer: expect your wife to pull back at first — she's afraid to hope. Keep the sword sharp and never take your foot off the gas [28:01] Joe's answer: be mindful of the PTSD and insecurity that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage [29:21] How fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the progress you've worked so hard for [30:16] Let faith lead, not fear — fear has never once led Joe somewhere he was glad he went [31:03] A real-time example: a man texting Joe that morning — his wife said she wants to stop counseling and he went into panic mode [32:26] How to get clarity instead of telling yourself a story [34:23] The right way to ask for clarity — why "you make me feel" is a grenade and what to say instead [36:31] Words have power. Be effective, not just right. [37:27] Bonus: never text your wife emotional content — everyone reads it through their own filter   Five Key Takeaways You lead your kids toward faith the same way you lead them in everything else — by living it in front of them, including letting them see you fail and change course. You don't have to be an expert to lead your kids spiritually. Invite them to learn alongside you. "Let's figure this out together" is more powerful than "let me teach you." Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world. If you want things to change around you, start with what's happening inside you. When your marriage starts turning around, don't get complacent. Marriage is like the gym — you don't work chest for eight weeks and then wonder why it's gone. Consistency is everything. Stop telling yourself a story about what your wife meant. Get clarity. And when you do, don't say "you make me feel" — own your interpretation and ask with curiosity, not accusation.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1456): https://thedadedge.com/1456   Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the most powerful thing you can do for the people you love is get yourself right on the inside first. Whether it's leading your kids toward faith, rebuilding your marriage, or just showing up differently than you have before — it all starts with the man in the mirror. Not the version of you that has all the answers, but the version that's humble enough to say "I don't have it all figured out, but I'm willing to learn." That's the man your kids need. That's the man your wife needs. If this episode resonated with you, share it with a man who is in the middle of his own turning point. Go out and live legendary.

    39 min
  8. MAR 23

    From The Dirt to The Dad & the Story of Forgiveness and Finding Freedom featuring Nikki Sixx

    In this episode, I sit down with Nikki Sixx — founder of Mötley Crüe, rock legend, bestselling author, and a man whose story goes so much deeper than anything that ever happened on a stage. This conversation is not about the music. It's about what happens when a boy grows up without his father, carries that wound through decades of addiction and chaos, and finally — through sobriety, therapy, forgiveness, and faith — becomes the kind of dad his own kids can always run to. Nikki opens up about growing up without his dad in the picture, how the story he was told about his father wasn't the full truth, and the slow and painful process of forgiving both his parents. He shares the defining therapy session where a frumpy office, a dusty couch, and one sentence from his therapist — "you don't have to love your mom" — cracked something open in him that changed everything. We talk about sobriety, and Nikki is direct: it always gets worse before it gets better. When you remove the substance, you have to face what's underneath. But if you can survive that first year, your whole life reorganizes. He's 20 years sober, and what he's built on the other side of that — as a husband, a father of five, a writer, and a creative — is nothing short of remarkable. And Larry's son Ethan jumps in with a question that leads to one of the most important moments of the episode: Nikki's warning to today's teenagers about the very real and deadly danger of fentanyl-laced drugs — from someone who has lived every version of this story.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities [1:01] Introducing Nikki Sixx — founder of Mötley Crüe, author, and one of the most unexpected guests in Dad Edge history [2:28] Growing up on vinyl, discovering music, and the self-discovery of being a young man in a different era [5:13] Both Larry and Nikki share the experience of growing up without their fathers — and how it shaped them [6:00] Writing The First 21 — the story of Frankie Farina, his dad's name, and what Nikki discovered about his father that surprised him [7:15] How the absence of a father manifests differently in every man — and why Nikki's came out as anger in his late teens [10:36] Larry's own story: being reunited with his father at 30 and building a relationship over 16 years [13:30] Getting to maturity means facing reality — and what Nikki's kids get to see by watching their dad work through his own stuff [14:22] Being gone on tour while raising kids — the guilt of absence and the work of making amends [15:35] No gold records on the walls: how Nikki deliberately kept his celebrity out of the home to protect his kids [16:32] "Not wanting to be my dad made me a better dad — but forgiving my dad might make me an even better one" [17:16] At 62 with a two-year-old: what legacy do you want to leave, and how do you get there without carrying old baggage? [18:31] Put down the baggage — it's heavy, it's exhausting, and it's crushing the people who love you most [19:23] The therapy session that changed Nikki's life: a dusty office, beams of light, and "you don't have to love your mom" [21:19] Letting go of the victim story and reclaiming the good — his dad was creative, his mom was charismatic, and Nikki carries both [23:28] Creating a home where your kids can always call dad — no matter what, no matter when [24:19] How unforgiveness clouds your ability to love the people right in front of you [25:36] Why Nikki shares his story publicly — so someone else doesn't have to wait as long to have their moment [29:18] When your daughter says "dad, you seem so happy" — the moment you know it's working [30:11] Ethan tells Larry "I love my life" — and why that's the greatest thing a father can hear [31:04] Moving from LA to Wyoming: finding simplicity in nature, watching moose in the yard, and what wildlife teaches about family [37:24] 20 years of sobriety — and why Nikki says it is an absolute gift [37:43] The hard truth about getting sober: it always gets worse before it gets better, and most people quit too soon [41:28] Larry's 90-day sobriety challenge with 30 men — and what clarity feels like when you strip alcohol away [43:41] Why humans are the only animals that can completely change the shape of their mind and body — and what that means for how we live [45:21] Men's stag meetings, male support systems, and why Nikki found brotherhood in sobriety that he never had growing up [47:37] Ethan's question for Nikki: what advice would you give a teenager in this generation? [48:39] Nikki's urgent warning about fentanyl — the drugs today are not what they were, and they are killing healthy young athletes at parties [50:19] How Nikki got sober: losing every friend, throwing himself into health and fitness, and writing Doctor Feelgood   Five Key Takeaways The story you were told about your father may not be the full truth. Until you do the work to find out who he really was, you're carrying someone else's version of your own life. Unforgiveness doesn't hurt the person you're holding it against — it closes you off from the people right in front of you who love you and need you. Sobriety always gets worse before it gets better. When you remove the substance, you have to face what's underneath. That is the work — and it's worth it. The greatest thing you can build as a father is an environment where your kids feel safe enough to call you when things go wrong — not hide it from you. The drugs today are not what they were. Fentanyl doesn't care how healthy or young you are. This is not a conversation to put off with your kids.   Links & Resources Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com The First 21 by Nikki Sixx: Available on Amazon Follow Nikki Sixx on Instagram: @nikkisixxpixx Episode Link & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/343 Closing If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the baggage you're carrying is not just yours to bear — it's being felt by every person in your home. Nikki Sixx spent decades carrying wounds from a father who left and a mother who filled in the gaps with half-truths. And it wasn't until he put that baggage down — through sobriety, through therapy, through the hard work of forgiveness — that he could fully show up for his wife and his five kids. That is the work. It's not glamorous, it's not fast, and it doesn't happen all at once. But on the other side of it is a man his daughter looks at and says, "Dad, you seem so happy." That is the goal. If this episode hit close to home, share it with a man who needs to hear it. Because every man deserves to put the weight down. Go out and live legendary.

    56 min

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The Dad Edge Podcast is a movement. It is a strong community of Fathers who all share a set of values. Larry Hagner, founder of The Dad Edge, breaks down common challenges of fatherhood, making them easy to understand and overcome. Tackling the world of Fatherhood can be a daunting task when we try to do it alone. The mission of The Dad Edge Podcast is to help you become the best, strongest, and happiest version of yourself so that you can help guide your kids to the best version of themselves. Simple as that. Everything you need and all of our resources can be found at thedadedge.com/podcast

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