This week on No Simple Road, Aaron, Mel, and Apple welcome Matthew McDonald, keyboardist of Perpetual Groove, for a deep and thoughtful conversation that celebrates 25 years of music, community, and the ever-evolving journey of creativity. Matthew takes us behind the scenes of Perpetual Groove’s 25th anniversary, reflecting on the band’s origins in the Southeast jam scene, the relationships that have carried them through decades of touring, and the powerful connection that forms between band and fans over years of shared musical experience. We talk about some of the special things the band has planned to celebrate a quarter century of playing, the lessons learned from life on the road, and what it means to keep a musical project vibrant after a quarter century. But the conversation goes beyond the stage. Matthew also introduces us to his newest passion project, Somnal, a veteran-owned wellness initiative that blends live music, yoga, breathwork, and immersive sound experiences. Drawing on more than 30 years of live performance experience, Matthew is creating intentional spaces where music becomes a vehicle for healing, presence, and connection. Matthew shares how his journey as a musician led him to explore mindfulness practices and how Somnal represents a natural evolution of the same intention that drives great live music: bringing people together in a shared, meaningful experience. As always on No Simple Road, this episode dives into the deeper layers — creativity, community, healing, and the paths that open when artists follow their curiosity beyond the stage. If you’re a fan of Perpetual Groove, jam bands, live music culture, or the intersection of music and wellness, this conversation is one you won’t want to miss. To find out more on Somnal head over to: somnalwellness.com ... and for tour info, merch, music, and more head over to: www.pgroove.net Visit nosimpleroad.com for merch, past episodes, and community updates. Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/nosimpleroad Leave a 5-star review & share this episode with a fellow music lover! -FREE SHIPPING from Shop Tour Bus Use The PROMO CODE: nosimpleroad INTRO MUSIC PROVIDED BY - Young & Sick OUTRO MUSIC BY AND USED WITH PERMISSION OF: CHILLDREN OF INDIGO No Simple Road is part of OSIRIS MEDIA. Osiris Media is the leading storyteller in music, combining the intimacy of podcasts with the power of music.