Success Beyond The Brush

Consulting4Contractors

Host Scott Lollar is a 35-year veteran of the painting industry and founder of Consulting4Contractors. The 'Success Beyond The Brush' Podcast serves as a touchpoint to painting contractors who have hustled, sacrificed, and worked hard to get their business to where it is today. Now, you need the guidance, expertise, experience, and team to make it into the multi-million-dollar company of your dreams. You'll hear stories and interviews from "Brothers of the Brush" and "Sisters of the Sprayer" who have been where you are and are charting a new course for their company's success. Listen in and go beyond $1,000,000!

  1. SBTB Ep. 17 | From $200K in Debt to a $3M Target: The Power of Strategic Focus

    4D AGO

    SBTB Ep. 17 | From $200K in Debt to a $3M Target: The Power of Strategic Focus

    What happens when your biggest customers are actually your biggest problem? In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, we revisit a conversation that Scott originally had on the Beyond A Million DollarPodcast, sitting down with Phil VanderLaan of PMV Painting to unpack a journey that many contractors quietly experience: growing revenue while losing profit. Phil shares how a major commercial project left his company over $200,000 in debt, why his new construction work was draining his margins, and how a strategic shift toward profitable services transformed his business. Through disciplined focus, better financial visibility, and the courage to say no to the wrong customers, Phil repositioned his company for sustainable growth and long-term scalability. PMV Painting operates with a strong leadership structure, a highly efficient spray division, and, at the time of the original recording, saw a clear roadmap toward a $3M revenue target — all without sacrificing culture or quality of life.  Today, PMV is well beyond that mark, and maintaining all of those identifiers of a healthy and growing contracting business.  If you've ever felt stuck between growth and profitability, this episode provides a practical roadmap for making smarter decisions about customers, services, and leadership. 🔗 Links from This Episode PMV Painting in Kalamazoo, MI. ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting4ContractorsPhil VanderLaan — CEO, PMV Painting, Kalamazoo, MI. 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Profit Wake Up Call (01:08) - Welcome to Success Beyond The Brush (02:37) - From Canada to Painting Startup (05:21) - Early Growth and New Builds (06:44) - Floor Coatings Detour (08:06) - Spray Booth and Staying in Lane (09:10) - Commercial Expansion and Thin Support (10:34) - The Exchange Project Crisis (11:55) - Finding a Coach and Turning Around (13:25) - Cutting Unprofitable Work (15:11) - Mid Episode Break (16:12) - Repaint Focus and Debt Free (18:20) - Scaling the Spray Division (20:06) - EOS Org Chart and Team Structure (22:15) - Culture Benefits and Hiring (25:10) - Tech Stack That Runs It (27:04) - Future Plans and Letting Go (30:09) - Advice on Profit and Coaching (32:09) - Wrap Up and Next Episode

    33 min
  2. SBTB Ep. 16 | How Much Should Contractors Really Spend on Marketing?

    MAR 24

    SBTB Ep. 16 | How Much Should Contractors Really Spend on Marketing?

    Spring brings more than warmer weather for painting contractors — it also brings a flood of marketing pitches, lead generation promises, and pressure to spend money fast. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, Mark Black and Scott Lawler break down how contractors should think about marketing spend, where most owners go wrong, and how to actually measure whether marketing is producing results. Scott explains why mature companies often spend far less on marketing than newer businesses, how past customers and referral databases can become your most profitable lead source, and why many contractors are making emotional marketing decisions instead of data-driven ones. They also unpack the difference between cost per lead and cost per acquisition, why that distinction matters, and how contractors can build a marketing plan that supports growth without burning cash. If you’ve ever thrown money at Google, Facebook, magazines, billboards, or a marketing company and hoped it would solve your pipeline problems, this episode will help you approach marketing with much more clarity and control. In this episode, Mark and Scott discuss:  Why contractors need a real marketing budget instead of guessing  A practical marketing spend range for most painting companies  Why many mature companies spend far less because they mine their database well  How newsletters and client databases can become high-ROI marketing assets  Why Google and Facebook leads are not created equal  The difference between branding and true lead generation  Why cost per acquisition matters more than clicks, impressions, or vague reports  How to hold marketing agencies accountable without treating them like adversaries  Why consistency in marketing activity matters more than dabbling in everything  The key reports and metrics owners should review every month Key takeaway Marketing should never be treated like a vending machine. Contractors need to know how many leads they actually need, what those leads are costing, how many are converting into jobs, and whether the return justifies the spend. If you found this discussion helpful, you may also want to listen to Episode 12 where we explore how data-driven thinking helps contractors create predictable growth and make smarter financial decisions. 🔗 Links from This Episode 🎧 Episode 12 ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting 4 ContractorsMark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, IL 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Welcome To Success Beyond The Brush - Marketing Spend Edition (01:38) - Spring Rush Lead Sellers (04:58) - Database Newsletter Strategy (08:08) - Build Your Database Automation (09:07) - Google Versus Facebook Leads (11:53) - Set Budget Three To Six (14:13) - Track Leads And ROI (17:29) - Cost Per Acquisition Matters (18:31) - Branding Traps Magazines Billboards (22:41) - Working With Marketing Agencies (23:46) - Revenue Goals Lead Targets (25:49) - Hold Partners Accountable (30:57) - Consistency Beats Random Tactics (33:30) - Action Steps And Wrap Up (34:33) - Final Takeaway Measure Honestly

    36 min
  3. SBTB Ep 15 | Salary vs Incentives: The Comp Plan Most Contractors Get Wrong

    MAR 17

    SBTB Ep 15 | Salary vs Incentives: The Comp Plan Most Contractors Get Wrong

    Incentives Drive Behavior — So What Are You Really Paying For? Most contractors think a salary is a compensation plan. But according to Consulting for Contractors’ Scott Lollar, that mindset might be quietly costing your company money. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down how contractors should think about compensation plans for overhead positions — especially sales and production leaders. Instead of paying fixed salaries regardless of performance, Scott argues that anyone directly responsible for revenue or production should have a meaningful portion of their income tied to results. Why? Because incentives drive behavior. When compensation is structured correctly, it creates motivated “hunters” who are focused on hitting revenue targets, protecting gross profit, and driving company growth. When it's structured poorly, it often creates comfortable employees who earn the same paycheck whether the company wins or loses. Scott and Mark unpack: • Why 100% commission sales roles often outperform salary models • The difference between estimators and true salespeople • Why paying commission on gross profit instead of revenue matters • The hidden risks of promoting technicians into management roles • How draws against commission help bridge the training period • Why operations leaders should also have performance-based compensation • How company-wide profit sharing can align the entire team If you’ve ever struggled with questions like: “What should I pay a salesperson?” “How do I motivate my operations team?” “Why are my overhead employees expensive but not productive?” This episode gives you a framework for designing compensation plans that reward performance while protecting your company’s profitability. In This Episode, We Cover Why salary alone is not a real compensation planThe difference between estimators, salespeople, hunters, and farmersHow commission structures motivate better performanceWhy compensation should be tied to gross profit instead of revenueThe pros and cons of base salary vs draw vs commissionHow to structure incentives for production managers and operations leadersWhy company-wide profit sharing can align the entire team🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting 4 ContractorsMark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, IL 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Hunters Not Order Takers (00:51) - Welcome to Success Beyond The Brush (02:37) - Sales Pay Philosophy (05:17) - Promoting Techs Pitfalls (10:09) - Training Period And Ramp (14:05) - Base Vs Commission Draws (17:13) - Midshow Breakx (19:37) - Comp Plans For Ops Leaders (24:05) - Hiring Ads And Right Fit (26:21) - Pay On Gross Profit KPIs (29:30) - C4C Help And Role Clarity (31:50) - Profit Sharing For Everyone (36:12) - Wrap Up And Next Steps

    38 min
  4. SBTB Ep. 14 | Leadership Is a Mirror: Why Your Company Reflects Who You Are

    MAR 3

    SBTB Ep. 14 | Leadership Is a Mirror: Why Your Company Reflects Who You Are

    Leadership isn’t a destination. It’s a mirror.In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, Mark Black sits down again with Rick Holtz of Holtz & Sons Painting for a powerful conversation on personal development, servant leadership, and the uncomfortable growth required to build a sustainable company. Rick shares his journey from “brute force” leadership as a young second-generation contractor to developing a culture built on accountability, boundaries, and authentic care for his team. They discuss: Why your company reflects your personal growth (or lack of it)The difference between being nice and being fairHow leadership evolves through discomfortThe danger of trying to “arrive” at leadershipWhy authenticity matters more than tacticsHow protecting employees can sometimes hurt your businessWhy boundaries are essential — even for nice guysThe responsibility of helping your team grow beyond where they startedRick also shares how he built a multi-million-dollar residential painting company not by hiring perfect people — but by developing them. If you’re a contractor who wants to grow but feels tension between being “the nice guy” and holding people accountable, this episode will challenge you in the best way. Because leadership isn’t about tactics. It’s about who you are. 🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Mark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, ILRick Holtz - President, H.J. Holtz & Sons, Inc., Richmond, VA 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Company Mirrors You (00:36) - Welcome To Success Beyond The Brush (01:54) - Leadership Development Begins (03:05) - Second Generation Lessons (03:44) - Nice Versus Fair (06:29) - Brute Force Fails (08:43) - Growing Into Servant Leadership (13:34) - Motivation And Developing People (16:43) - Midroll And Growth Challenge (17:21) - Staying The Best Requires Change (22:16) - Authenticity And One Life (30:14) - Accountability And Discomfort (32:37) - Final Takeaways

    34 min
  5. SBTB Ep. 13 | Details Make the Difference: Why Job Documentation Drives Profit & Freedom

    FEB 24

    SBTB Ep. 13 | Details Make the Difference: Why Job Documentation Drives Profit & Freedom

    In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, Mark Black and Scott Lollar tackle one of the most overlooked — and most expensive — weaknesses in a contracting business: job documentation. From unclear scopes to missed closets, from time overruns to frustrated customers, this conversation exposes the hidden costs of vague work orders and poor internal communication. You’ll hear real-world stories — including a garage door contract written by the customer — and practical strategies to create documentation systems that: Protect your profitEmpower your crewEliminate constant phone callsImprove scheduling accuracyDeliver a true white-glove experienceIf you want freedom in your business, better documentation isn’t optional — it’s foundational. 🎯 In This Episode, We Cover: Why unclear scope destroys profitabilityHow exclusions protect you from conflictProduction rates vs. “lick your finger and guess” estimatingWhy crews need time budgets per substrateThe power of electronic color schedulesHow poor documentation creates management bottlenecksWhy scaling without systems creates burnoutHow technology (like project management platforms) simplifies everything💡 Key Takeaway If your phone rings all day with clarifying questions, your customers try to take advantage of your miscommunications with your crew leaders, or your constantly giving guidance that should've been communicated beforehand, you don’t have a people problem — you have a documentation system problem. Solve it once. Fix it forever. 🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting 4 ContractorsMark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, IL 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - The Contractor Who Had No Clue: A Jobsite Wake‑Up Call (00:51) - Podcast Intro: Why Job Documentation Drives Profit & Satisfaction (02:00) - Mark’s Work Order Story: ‘How Do You Know What to Do?’ (04:33) - Why Documentation Matters: Contracts, Scope, and Protecting Everyone (05:09) - Garage Door Lesson: When the Customer Has to Write the Contract (07:38) - Paperless Systems & Crew Handoffs: Stop Losing Critical Notes (09:51) - Bare-Minimum Work Order Essentials: Scope, Prep Levels, Photos, Notes (12:40) - From Proposal to Work Order: Checklists, Tools, and Owner-Proof Processes (15:08) - The Customer Experience Problem: Tree Crew Confusion & the Restaurant Analogy (19:04) - Crew Leader vs. Unprepared Tech: Setting Expectations on Day One (19:32) - Production Meeting + First-Day Walkthrough: Preventing Scope Confusion (21:00) - Handling Exclusions (Closets, Gutters, ‘Paint the Whole House’ Traps) (23:05) - Time Budgets & Production Rates: Turning Estimates into Hours and Materials (28:16) - Managing to the Plan: Tracking Progress, Scheduling, and Teaching ‘Job Math’ (31:07) - Color Schedules & Digital Work Orders: Making Job Info Mobile and Foolproof (32:52) - Tech Stack + Systemizing Away Constant Phone Calls (E-Myth Mindset) (35:56) - Scaling for Freedom: Build Documentation Systems Early + Final Wrap-Up

    39 min
  6. SBTB Ep. 12 | From $500K to $6M: What It Really Takes to Lead a Scaling Painting Company

    FEB 17

    SBTB Ep. 12 | From $500K to $6M: What It Really Takes to Lead a Scaling Painting Company

    In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush, Mark Black sits down with Rick Holtz, owner of a $6 million painting company with 50+ field employees, to unpack what it actually looks like to transition from operator to CEO. If you’ve ever wondered: Does stress triple when revenue triples?What does a real week look like for a $6M company owner?When should you hire production vs. sales?How do you scale without losing your company’s heart?Rick shares candid insights about letting go of ego, building systems, stopping exceptions, and evolving from “hero problem-solver” to coach and culture builder. This episode is for contractors who want to grow — but grow the right way. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why scaling doesn’t mean more stress — it means better perspectiveThe CEO metrics Rick watches every single weekWhy production/operations is your first key hireThe hidden chaos created by “just this one exception”How to transition from ego-driven owner to empowering leaderWhy soft skills are just as important as craftsmanshipHow to grow without becoming “the Walmart of painting”What business feels like when you’re no longer the bottleneckKey Takeaways 1️⃣ Scaling Changes Your Role — Not Just Your Revenue At $2M, you’re in the weeds.At $6M, you’re looking at systems, KPIs, and leadership development. But that transition doesn’t happen accidentally — it takes intention. 2️⃣ Stop Making Exceptions One of the biggest growth breakthroughs Rick shared: “One of our goals one year was for me to stop making exceptions.”What works at $1M creates chaos at $4M. 3️⃣ Production First. Sales Second. If you're a $1M company wondering who to hire first: ✔ Hire production/operations ✔ Keep selling yourself ✔ Add sales support once production runs smoothly 4️⃣ Growth Should Be Demand-Driven Rick didn’t grow because he wanted bigger numbers. He grew because: “The pressure of our success created demand.”That’s a completely different mindset than chasing volume. 5️⃣ Soft Skills Are a Competitive Advantage Technical skill matters. But customer experience is what creates legacy clients. “I want our clients to feel like Chick-fil-A, not the DMV.”That’s a culture decision. 🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Mark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, ILRick Holtz - President, H.J. Holtz & Sons, Inc., Richmond, VA 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - The Pitfalls of Saying Yes in Business (00:41) - Introduction to Success Beyond the Brush (01:21) - Meet Rick Holtz: Scaling a Painting Business (02:49) - The Role of a CEO in a Growing Company (04:01) - Balancing Sales, Production, and Finance (06:21) - The Importance of Consistency and Systems (15:47) - Weekly Structure and Meetings (17:31) - Implementing Lessons and Resources (18:31) - The Morning Routine of a CEO (19:21) - Adjusting to a New Work Schedule (20:53) - Focusing on Processes and Procedures (21:28) - The Importance of Soft Skills (23:29) - Balancing Growth and Company Culture (27:23) - Key Hires for Scaling a Business (29:28) - Promoting from Within vs. Hiring Externally (31:36) - The Responsibility to Employees and Clients (33:13) - Reflecting on Business Growth and Success (35:27) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    37 min
  7. SBTB Ep. 11 | Ask Scott Anything: Coaching, Time Management, Hiring & Building a Team

    FEB 10

    SBTB Ep. 11 | Ask Scott Anything: Coaching, Time Management, Hiring & Building a Team

    In this listener Q&A episode, Scott Lollar shares his origin story—how an entrepreneurial streak as a kid (yard work, snow shoveling, even cleaning an elderly couple’s home) eventually led to painting, then scaling companies, and finally launching Consulting4Contractors (C4C). From there, Scott and Mark tackle big questions contractors face: how to choose a coach in a noisy market, how to stop living in the “firefighter” mode as an owner, how to think about hiring key people when cash feels tight, and what it takes to stop being the center of the business. Along the way, they reference practical frameworks like the “5 Whys,” the urgent-vs-important quadrant, and the idea of building a vertical org chart where people truly own outcomes. What we cover in this episode Scott Lollar’s “through the trenches” background (and how painting started with one question: “Can you paint my house?”)“Experts, not influencers” — how to evaluate coaches and consultants in a crowded spaceWhy information isn’t the problem—and why accountability and support change everythingHow owners get organized when everything feels urgentSolving recurring chaos with systems: Toyota “5 Whys” and process thinkingAutomate / Eliminate / Delegate (and why planning prevents constant emergencies)Hiring to grow: the “chicken or egg” question and how to think about overhead paying for itselfBuilding a team so you’re not the center: vertical org chart, clear ownership, KPIs, reporting loopsLeadership growth: when you need a GM/VP-type role and how to avoid the Superman complexNotable frameworks & references mentioned The E-Myth (and the concept of building systems for recurring problems)Toyota “5 Whys” root-cause methodUrgent vs. Important (Eisenhower / Covey quadrant thinking)Free to Focus by Michael Hyatt (freedom zone, planning, delegation)“Don’t call me unless you have three solutions” (problem-solving culture)Key takeaways If you’re putting out the same fires every week, the fix is almost always a process, not more effort.Coaching isn’t about more content—it’s about getting unstuck, building momentum, and staying accountable.Hiring isn’t only about “can I afford it?”—it’s about what revenue/profit gap the role can close.To stop being the center, you need clear ownership, measurable expectations (KPIs), and a consistent reporting loop.🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting 4 ContractorsMark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, IL 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Introduction: Experts, Not Influencers (01:14) - Success Beyond the Brush: Episode Overview (01:42) - Listener Q&A: Scott's Background in the Painting Industry (02:44) - The Journey: From Entrepreneurial Beginnings to Consulting (09:21) - The Value of Coaching: Why Choose Consulting4Contractors (20:03) - Organizing as Business Owners: From Firefighting to Efficiency (20:59) - Identifying and Solving Recurring Problems (21:50) - The Power of Planning and Delegation (23:02) - Time Management Strategies (23:59) - Operating in Your Freedom Zone (26:30) - Creating a Culture of Independence (28:41) - Balancing Growth and Financial Stability (32:52) - Building a Self-Sustaining Team (39:38) - Conclusion and Next Steps

    41 min
  8. SBTB Ep. 10 | The Scheduling Mistakes That Quietly Cost Contractors $150K+

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    SBTB Ep. 10 | The Scheduling Mistakes That Quietly Cost Contractors $150K+

    In this episode, Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down why scheduling is one of the biggest hidden profit leaks in a contracting business. They unpack how going over budget doesn’t just cost you on the job — it steals capacity from the next job (the “double whammy”), why “my board is full” is meaningless if it isn’t tied to revenue targets and headcount, and how crew sizing, overtime, job rounding, and even supply runs can quietly wreck production. If you want more predictable revenue, smoother operations, and fewer end-of-job surprises, this one is a must-listen. What you’ll learn in Episode 10 Why scheduling = capacity, and capacity dictates revenueThe “double whammy” of going over budget:You lose margin on the current jobYou lose revenue you could’ve produced on the next jobThe KPI mindset shift: when a job hits budget, everything after is free workWhy over-staffing jobs “just to give Joe somewhere to go” creates inefficiencyWhy a 2-person crew often outperforms a packed 4-person crew (and how to run 4 as “two crews of two”)The danger of letting the schedule drift because “it’s only a couple hours”Why 36–38 hours/week becomes a massive annual revenue leak at scaleWhen overtime actually helps production (and profitability)Why you still need to track “FTE” (full-time equivalent) even with subcontractorsWhy “we’re good” updates are meaningless unless you track % complete vs. hours burnedThe “don’t send the whole crew back tomorrow” rule:push the next job forwardsend a leader back to wrap up for a couple hoursWhy estimates should be rounded to workable scheduling units (8s/16s/32s)Skill levels and scheduling: don’t build your schedule around weaknesses — train and cross-train🔗 Links from This Episode ✨ Free Discovery Call with Scott Lollar 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/discovery-call/ 🏗️ Consulting 4 Contractors Website 👉 https://consulting4contractors.com/ ⚙️ Operations Module Demo Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/0IUmPWk4GRI ✌️ Operations Module 2.0 Update Video (YouTube) 👉 https://youtu.be/JTHtbLXyMBI 📲 C4C on Instagram 👉 https://www.instagram.com/consulting4contractors/ 👥 C4C Facebook Community 👉 https://www.facebook.com/consulting4contractors/ 💼 C4C on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/70241567 📧 Want to Be a Guest? Send us an email → info@c4c.team 🎧 Credits 🎙️ Hosts:Scott Lollar — Founder, Consulting 4 ContractorsMark Black — Owner, Men In White Painting, Mt. Vernon, IL 🎵 Production:Siren Mastering — Original music, artwork, transcripts, show notes & audio engineeringhttps://www.sirenmastering.com (00:00) - Introduction to Scheduling in Operations (00:26) - The Importance of Efficient Scheduling (01:07) - Wecome To Success Beyond The Brush (02:15) - Diving into Scheduling Challenges (03:16) - Operational Realities and Capacity (05:50) - The Impact of Over-Budget Jobs (12:20) - Optimizing Crew Sizes and Job Efficiency (18:54) - Balancing Operational and People Components (22:19) - The Importance of Manpower in Achieving Revenue Goals (22:55) - Understanding and Expanding Your Production Schedule (27:01) - The Role of Technology in Scheduling (29:05) - Effective Project Management and Communication (36:16) - Addressing Skill Levels and Cross-Training (40:02) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    41 min

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About

Host Scott Lollar is a 35-year veteran of the painting industry and founder of Consulting4Contractors. The 'Success Beyond The Brush' Podcast serves as a touchpoint to painting contractors who have hustled, sacrificed, and worked hard to get their business to where it is today. Now, you need the guidance, expertise, experience, and team to make it into the multi-million-dollar company of your dreams. You'll hear stories and interviews from "Brothers of the Brush" and "Sisters of the Sprayer" who have been where you are and are charting a new course for their company's success. Listen in and go beyond $1,000,000!

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