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Dismantling the Status Quo, One Episode at a Time.  The MLO Project is THE podcast for loan officers and industry professionals who are ready to evolve. We’re here to disrupt the old guard, break free from outdated norms, and deliver insights that actually matter. Hosted by mortgage industry veterans Jason Frazier & Michael McAllister, The MLO Project promises No fluff. No clichés. Just real talk, fresh ideas, and actionable takeaways to elevate your career and the industry.The MLO Project is presented by Empower LO

  1. 3D AGO

    Nothing Says “Helping Veterans” Like Steering & Kickbacks | Ep. 54

    Send a text The mortgage industry is buzzing about one headline right now: Veterans United is being accused of steering and deceiving military veterans. In this episode, Frazier and Michael break down what the lawsuit actually says, what parts of it matter, and why loan officers should be paying attention. This conversation goes deeper than industry gossip. It touches on the ethics of VA loan marketing, potential RESPA violations, and the bigger issue of how veterans are treated within the mortgage system. The hosts also debate whether loan officers should talk about competitors publicly or if doing so only amplifies their brand. If you work with VA borrowers, this is a conversation you need to hear. What You’ll Learn Why Veterans United is facing accusations of steering and deception The RESPA Section 8 issue at the center of the lawsuit How referral kickbacks and real estate partnerships may play a role Why many loan officers have long been skeptical of Veterans United’s marketing The difference between competitor criticism and consumer education How VA-focused loan officers can use this moment to better serve veterans Real Talk Quotes “Veterans United is a marketing company that found a niche and exploited it.” “If you’re the biggest VA lender in the country, you better not also be the worst one.” “Don’t confuse VA loans with VU loans.” “Just because something generates leads doesn’t mean it delivers value.” “If you went to a calculator page and didn’t get a calculation… that’s not a calculator.” Tactical Takeaways ✅ If you specialize in VA loans, educate borrowers on how the process actually works ✅ Use industry headlines as conversation starters, not marketing gimmicks ✅ Understand RESPA referral rules if your business involves agent partnerships ✅ Focus on service and expertise instead of competing purely on brand recognition ✅ Build trust with veteran clients through transparency and education Why This Episode Matters VA loans are one of the most powerful benefits available to military veterans. When companies misuse marketing, misrepresent relationships with the VA, or create referral structures that may violate RESPA, it doesn’t just affect competitors. It affects the perception of VA loans themselves. For loan officers who genuinely care about serving veterans, this moment is a reminder that integrity and education matter more than aggressive marketing. Empower LO DIFRNT Coaching Community Broker Toolkit

    25 min

  2. MAR 4

    Attention, Traffic, Data. That's The Game Now. Are You Playing? | Ep. 53

    Send a text On this episode of The MLO Project with Frazier & Michael McAllister... Compass pulled 500,000 listings from Zillow overnight. Redfin gets the inventory. Rocket gets the mortgage. And most loan officers are still asleep. Frazier and Michael break down the Compass, Redfin, and Rocket trifecta, what it actually means for your pipeline, and why the loan officers who have been building real relationships are going to be fine while everyone else scrambles. In This Episode: What the Compass and Redfin exclusive listing deal actually meansWhy Rocket doesn't need Redfin to be profitableThe real threat to your pipeline that nobody is talking aboutWhy your database is the only moat you have leftWhat separates the loan officers who will thrive from the ones who won'tResources Mentioned: Empower LO: https://empowerlo.comDIFRNT Coaching Community: https://difrntcoach.com/winBroker Toolkit: https://brokertoolkit.app/Connect With Us: themloproject@empowerlo.comLeave us a review and let us know what topics you want us to cover next.

    33 min

  3. FEB 24

    AI Isn't Taking Your Job. It's Taking Your Borrowers | Ep. 52

    Send a text Look, we are going to piss some people off today. Good. That means we're doing our job. Michael and Frazier are coming in hot on this one, and if you've been spending your weekends hunched over a laptop vibe coding some custom AI tool you think is going to crush it in 2026, you need to hear this episode right now. Like, stop what you're doing and press play. Here's what went down. On February 5th, two new AI models dropped from OpenAI and Claude, and they weren't just updates. These were the first models where over 50 percent of the next version was written by the model before it. Read that again. AI is now building AI. And the pace of development just went from fast to absolutely insane. We're talking 12 to 14 days of growth cycles versus the 12 to 14 months you're used to seeing from normal tech. What does that mean for you as an originator? It means that whatever AI tool you're learning to build right now is probably going to be obsolete before you finish learning it. And the $497 course you signed up for to master it? Yeah, someone already blew that up with a new model release while the instructor was still recording module three. In this episode, Frazier and Michael break down: Why building your own AI tools right now as an originator is the wrong move, and what to do instead. The real threat AI poses to your business that nobody in the mortgage industry is talking about, and it has nothing to do with whether AI replaces loan officers. Why the blue ocean of teaching agents AI tools just turned red overnight, and where the next opportunity actually is. How Frazier's coaching clients are using a relevancy score system to cut through AI noise without wasting time or money. What Empower LO and the Broker Toolkit are building so that you don't have to, and why that matters for your bottom line. And yeah, we go there on the bigger picture too. When AI starts eliminating the jobs of the borrowers you're trying to serve, who is going to be buying homes? The loan officers who built real, trusted, human relationships are going to be fine. Everyone else is going to be fighting over scraps. This is not an anti-AI episode. We love AI. We use it every single day. This is a message to stop getting distracted by the shiny object and get back to the money making activities that actually build a sustainable business. Use AI. Don't let AI use you. New episodes every week. Leave us a review, tell a friend, and if you want to come on and argue with us about this, we are absolutely here for it. Let's go. Join us on MLO Hub.

    28 min

  4. FEB 17

    Did MortgageCon Just Change The Mortgage Event Game? (Again) | Ep. 51

    Send a text Fresh off MortgageCon, Frazier and Michael break down what made this event completely different from the typical mortgage conference experience. From hosting the event inside Universal Studios to AI duels, practitioner-led sessions, and private park access, this wasn’t just another sit-in-a-ballroom event. It was immersive, high-energy, and packed with real, usable insights for loan officers who actually want to grow. But beyond the experience, the real value came from the content. The recurring themes were clear: don’t lose your humanity in an AI world, stop being a product pusher, and start showing up as a true advisor. This episode covers the biggest takeaways, standout speakers, and the lessons loan officers should actually implement instead of just taking notes and doing nothing. No fluff. No hype recap. Just real insights from a high-impact industry event. What You’ll Learn Why Mortgage Con stood out from traditional mortgage conferencesThe common theme across top speakers: humanity over automationHow storytelling and communication are becoming the new competitive edgeWhy practitioner-led content hits harder than theory and hypeThe role AI should actually play in your mortgage businessHow event environments impact learning, networking, and executionReal Talk Quotes “It’s still a mortgage event, but the experience changes everything.” “Don’t lose your humanity just because AI is getting louder.” “If you went to MortgageCon and didn’t get one takeaway, you chose not to.” “Stop being a rate pusher. Be the advisor.” “You invested the time and money. Now do something with what you learned.” Tactical Takeaways ✅ Focus on being a trusted advisor, not just a product or price salesperson ✅ Use AI to enhance communication, not replace human connection ✅ Create content that answers real client questions you get daily ✅ Authenticity attracts the right clients and repels the wrong ones ✅ Events only create ROI if you execute on what you learn ✅ Community and experience amplify retention of education and networking Want to Implement What You’re Learning? This episode is powered by Empower LO and HL4, where strategy, simplicity, and execution come together to help loan officers grow without unnecessary complexity.

    31 min

  5. FEB 3

    Real Talk About Paid Ads: Intent Beats Interruption. Every Time. | Ep. 50

    Send a text Thinking about running paid ads in 2026? Pump the brakes. Frazier and Michael are breaking down the truth about paid advertising — what works, what doesn’t, and where most loan officers go wrong. Whether you’re sitting on a 30K marketing budget or barely spending $300 a month, this episode is a tactical deep dive into interruption vs. intent, social vs. search, and why Google still wins if you're serious about ROI. No fluff. No theory. Just straight talk on what actually drives deals — and what will drain your wallet. What You’ll Learn Why social media ads aren’t dead — but most of them are dumbThe difference between passive brand amplification and transactional lead genWhy low-cost leads are usually garbage (and what actually matters)How intent changes everything — and why interruption-based ads have a short fuseWhat to realistically budget for Google or social ads in 2026Real Talk Quotes “You don’t own the customer. You’re just renting attention.”“Lead cost means nothing if the leads suck.”“You’re never gonna get a CTC on your feelings.”“Intent-based leads wait for you. Interruption leads forget you.”“We can all get 50-cent leads. That’s not the flex you think it is.”Tactical Takeaways ✅ Expect to spend $1,500/month minimum if you want transactional ROI✅ Social media ads work best to amplify brand — not chase cold leads✅ Google Search ads are still the king of high-intent lead generation✅ YouTube & TikTok are the only social platforms with real search intent✅ If you’re not following up with automation, you’re burning money✅ Don’t run your own ads unless you want to waste time and budgetWhy This Episode Matters Most LOs are playing checkers when it comes to paid ads — this episode helps you play chess. Whether you’re doing consumer direct or trying to convert your social audience, you’ll learn where to invest, what to expect, and how to actually get deals from your dollars. Want Help Running Ads That Work? This episode is powered by Empower LO, the trusted team behind hundreds of top-producing LOs running scalable Google ad campaigns. Learn more at empowerlo.com

    38 min

  6. JAN 27

    You Don’t Own the Customer | Ep. 49

    Send a text You think that client is “yours”? Think again. In this episode, Frazier (COVID-stricken but still showing up) and Michael (running on espresso and spite) break down a brutal but necessary truth: you don’t own the customer, you’re just renting attention. From trigger leads to servicing transfers to Rocket buying Mr. Cooper, the guys explain why your feelings don’t belong in the pipeline and how whining about lost deals won’t get you paid. This is about controlling what you can control — and mastering retention like a pro. If you’re tired of losing past clients and still blaming the system, this one will hit different What You’ll Learn Why "owning the customer" is a myth that will keep you brokeThe real risk behind complacency and client silenceWhat top producers actually do to retain businessHow to run a smarter, tighter, more memorable follow-up gameWhy you need to start investing in client retention — not just lead genReal Talk Moments “You’re never gonna get a CTC on your feelings.”“Valuable is valuable. Be a utility. Be unforgettable.”“Every loan is a rental — unless you earn the right to get called back.”Tactical Ideas from the Episode Host small mixers or client events that build communityBake in strike-rate conversations within 30–60 days post-closeInvest a % of every commission check into client retentionShow up with personalized messages, not cookie-cutter junkBuild a system that makes you the first call, not the last memoryWhy This Episode Matters If you’re getting mad about losing clients, you’ve already lost. The game in 2026 is about connection, consistency, and control — and this episode will show you how to win it. 📲 Subscribe, Share, Show Up ✔️ Subscribe to The MLO Project 📤 Forward this episode to your team or biz partner 🧠 Screenshot your favorite takeaway and tag @frazier & @michael

    29 min

  7. JAN 6

    Goals Are Just Greeting Cards for Your Ego | Ep. 48

    Send a text It’s a new year, which means your feed is flooded with goal-setting posts, vision boards, and all the same recycled motivation. But here’s the truth: None of that matters without execution. In this episode, Frazier and Michael torch the traditional January BS and get straight to what actually drives success in 2026. You’ll hear why most loan officers set goals that are more about ego than execution—and how that mindset will keep you broke and burned out. We break down the difference between real commitment and performative goal-chasing, and give you the mental framework needed to stop resetting your goals and start finishing them. No gimmicks. No cute quotes. Just a full-throttle conversation about what it actually takes to win this year—and why headlines might be your best strategy yet. 💥 What You’ll Learn Why most goals are designed to make you feel productive, not be productiveThe real reason you fall short by FebruaryHow “headlines” are better than goal lists (and what that actually means)What to do when motivation fadesThe mindset shift that separates top producers from everyone else🧠 Why This Episode Matters This isn’t another “set your goals” pep talk. It’s the slap in the face you need to stop playing small and start leading with clarity and conviction. If you’re tired of fake progress and real burnout, this episode is your reset button.

    38 min

  8. 12/31/2025

    Headlines: The Reset, The Risk, and The Rise of DSCR | Ep. 47

    Send a text In this special New Year's edition of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael tackle two hot headlines shaping the future of the mortgage industry. From National Mortgage News’ prediction that 2026 will be the industry’s “reset year” to HousingWire’s deep dive on the growing dominance of DSCR loans—this episode is packed with straight talk, strategic insights, and zero fluff. Frazier breaks down key takeaways from the “2026 reset” article, calling out the recycled advice on chasing shiny objects, while uncovering powerful truths about layered affordability solutions and compliance complacency. Michael fires back with a deeper look at DSCR momentum, TCPA liability, API key nightmares, and why brokers need to wake up about their exposure. Whether you’re fired up for growth or still dragging from 2025, this conversation is your reality check heading into the new year. 💥 What You’ll Learn Why the “2026 Reset” isn’t a prediction—it’s overdue disciplineThe real risks behind non-compliance and liability landminesHow DSCR loans are becoming a long-term shift, not a passing trendWhy serial TCPA litigators are your biggest hidden threatHow brokers are recklessly exposing client data without knowing itThe difference between real execution and just hoping something sticksWhat loan officers must fix before it costs them everything🧨 Hard Truths Dropped “You’re not getting a pass because you did it right last year.”“If you’re waiting for affordability to be solved, you’ll be waiting forever.”“There’s no silver bullet. There’s just layered solutions and discipline.”“Compliance isn’t your problem—liability is.”“Most brokers are one Zapier key away from a data breach.”🚨 Sponsors This episode is brought to you by: MLO Hub – Your all-in-one platform for community and growthHL4 – High-Level automation built for mortgageEmpower LO – The growth engine behind top-producing brokers🔗 Join the Community Ready to cut the noise and grow with real professionals? Join the MLO Hub community today (free to join). Links are above. 💬 Want to Be Featured or Debate a Topic? Slide into Frazier or Michael’s DMs. This show is made for LOs who are done playing small.

    32 min
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Dismantling the Status Quo, One Episode at a Time.  The MLO Project is THE podcast for loan officers and industry professionals who are ready to evolve. We’re here to disrupt the old guard, break free from outdated norms, and deliver insights that actually matter. Hosted by mortgage industry veterans Jason Frazier & Michael McAllister, The MLO Project promises No fluff. No clichés. Just real talk, fresh ideas, and actionable takeaways to elevate your career and the industry.The MLO Project is presented by Empower LO

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  • Creator
    Frazier
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    54
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 The MLO Project
  • Show Website
    The MLO Project

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