Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse

Kerry McAvoy, Ph.D.

Confused by your relationship? Do you catch yourself second-guessing, walking on eggshells, or feeling emotionally drained? Whether you’re still in the chaos or trying to rebuild after leaving, this podcast is your lifeline. Join Dr. Kerry McAvoy as she exposes the hidden dynamics of toxic relationships. You’ll learn how destructive personalities operate, the manipulative tactics they use, and the stages of abuse—plus the practical steps to heal and reclaim your life. If you’re ready to break free, rebuild your self-worth, and find lasting emotional freedom, hit play and start your recovery journey today.

  1. 3d ago

    The Psychology of Men & Why They Knowingly Put Your Life in Danger and Call It Fun

    You’ve tried explaining yourself. You’ve tried having the conversation. But what happens when nothing changes, no matter how carefully you say it? When you’ve spent so long questioning yourself, it can be difficult to trust your own judgment about what’s happening. If you’re struggling to make sense of your relationship, take my free Toxic or Troubled? survey to gain some clarity and explore your next steps. https://kerrymcavoyphd.fillout.com/toxic-troubled-survey Has someone you trusted ever put your life at risk, then acted like it was all in good fun?  In this episode, Kerry sits down with journalist, and former whitewater raft guide Melanie Hamlett to explore why so many men treat danger as entertainment. Together they unpack how male conditioning strips away empathy and why ego and adrenaline override common sense. They also examine why so many women are taught to trust a confident man over their own intuition, even when lives are on the line. WANT TO GO DEEPER?  In the exclusive podcast extra, Kerry and Mel get honest about the hardest part of healing: owning the ways we vouched for, protected, and stayed with dangerous people.  Get immediate access to this and 100+ premium interviews when you become a Substack paid subscriber today. Join here -> https://substack.com/@breakingfreenarcabuse Melanie Hamlett is a comedian, journalist, and storyteller based in Lyon, France. Her work has appeared in Harper’s Bazaar, The Washington Post, Glamour, Slate, and The Daily Beast. That includes a viral Harper’s Bazaar piece that has been cited in dozens of podcasts, books, and articles. She’s a multiple-time Moth winner. Before moving into writing and comedy, she spent years as a whitewater raft guide, an Outward Bound wilderness instructor, and a ski instructor. That firsthand experience shapes her work on the hidden dangers women face in the outdoors and in relationships. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MelanieHamlett Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melhamlett/ 00:00 Why river guides flip the raft on purpose 00:36 Meet Melanie Hamlett 04:53 A woman died on my first day as a raft guide 08:58 Don't let a man override your intuition 11:35 My father's dangerous stunts with us kids 14:17 Why do men put women in danger? 18:35 How men are raised to be reckless 22:46 Why women keep taking care of these men 26:09 Why smart women still default to men 28:40 When "toughing it out" nearly kills you 30:40 They call it carnage, like it's fun 36:04 Where to find Melanie 36:48 Coming up in the Podcast Extra Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  2. 6d ago

    The Ugly Truth About Narcissistic Abuse Recovery: Why Your Kids and Friends Don't Know How to Help You.

    You’ve tried explaining yourself. You’ve tried having the conversation. But what happens when nothing changes, no matter how carefully you say it? When you’ve spent so long questioning yourself, it can be difficult to trust your own judgment about what’s happening. If you’re struggling to make sense of your relationship, take my free Toxic or Troubled? survey to gain some clarity and explore your next steps. https://kerrymcavoyphd.fillout.com/toxic-troubled-survey Why do the people closest to you seem to pull away right when you need them most?  Leaving a toxic relationship doesn’t end the fallout. It changes your relationships with everyone else too.  In this episode, Kerry answers two listener questions from recent live streams about what happens after you leave: how to reconnect with adult children who grew up in the chaos, and why friends often struggle to stay close while you heal. In this episode, learn: 1. Why you may still be walking on eggshells around your adult kids, and how to tell real tension from old fear 2. How your silence can read as not caring, and the one honest conversation that can change everything 3. How to apologize for the times trauma kept you from showing up, without needing a certain response back 4. Why “trauma dumping” is actually a normal stage of recovery, and why you may lose friends during it 5. How to handle well-meaning people who say painful things like “at least you knew love” WANT TO GO DEEPER? In the exclusive podcast extra, Kerry and Lynn get honest about the promise that keeps so many people stuck: “I’ll change for you.” Learn why desperate promises to change vanish the moment the relationship feels secure again. Get immediate access to this and 100+ premium interviews when you become a Substack paid subscriber today. Join here -> https://substack.com/@breakingfreenarcabuse 00:00 Why people stop listening to your story 01:03 Walking on eggshells with your adult kids 02:38 The hotel room talk with my son 04:08 When your kids picked up narcissistic fleas 05:51 How to apologize to your kids 09:16 The habits we carry from a toxic relationship 10:02 Trauma dumping is a normal part of recovery 12:37 Why people don't want to hear your story 15:12 I lost friends over my story 16:17 "At least you knew love": what not to say 18:15 Some people can't meet you where you are #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #NarcissisticAbuse #ToxicRelationship #TraumaBonding #TraumaDumping #AdultChildren #NarcissisticFleas #EmotionalAbuse #TraumaRecovery #MentalHealth

  3. Oct 26

    What Happens Inside a Narcissist the Moment You Confront Them & Why It Will Never Lead to Change

    You’ve tried explaining yourself. You’ve tried having the conversation. But what happens when nothing changes, no matter how carefully you say it? When you’ve spent so long questioning yourself, it can be difficult to trust your own judgment about what’s happening. If you’re struggling to make sense of your relationship, take my free Toxic or Troubled? survey to gain some clarity and explore your next steps. https://kerrymcavoyphd.fillout.com/toxic-troubled-survey Have you ever confronted a narcissist about something truly hurtful and watched it vanish in seconds? A flicker of discomfort, then a reset, as if it never happened? In this episode, Kerry and psychotherapist Lynn Strathdee take on the question listeners ask most: can a narcissist change? They explore why owning the problem is the real dividing line, the debate over shame versus humiliation, and what happens inside a disordered personality the moment it’s challenged. WANT TO GO DEEPER? In the exclusive podcast extra, Kerry and Lynn get honest about the promise that keeps so many people stuck: “I’ll change for you.” Learn why desperate promises to change vanish the moment the relationship feels secure again. Get immediate access to this and 100+ premium interviews when you become a Substack paid subscriber today. Join here -> https://substack.com/@breakingfreenarcabuse LYNN STRATHDEE is a UK-based psychodynamic psychotherapist specializing in echoism and narcissistic abuse recovery, and former educator helping adults reclaim identity after chronic antagonism. WEBSITE: https://echoismrecovery.com/ 00:00 What happens inside a narcissist when you confront them 00:39 Can a personality disorder ever change? 02:56 Born with the tools: the wagon story 04:29 Why they won't own the problem 06:18 Do narcissists feel shame or humiliation? 07:43 Not enough of a "me" to change 10:30 Why real growth means sitting with discomfort 13:13 They reset right in front of you 16:56 Two years asking "can he change?" 18:59 How he faked change to keep me calm 22:22 Why victims get duped 24:41 Coming up in the Podcast Extra #Narcissist #NarcissisticAbuse #CanNarcissistsChange #NarcissisticPersonalityDisorder #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #CovertNarcissist #Gaslighting #EmotionalAbuse #ToxicRelationships #HealingAfterNarcissisticAbuse Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  4. Oct 22

    The 7-Stage Trauma Bond That Makes Leaving Feel Impossible

    Why do smart people stay in toxic relationships long after they see the pattern? It was never weakness — it was conditioning by design. In this episode, Kerry unpacks the hidden mechanics behind the 7-stage trauma-bonding trap — how predators wire dependency, hijack empathy, rewrite reality, and shut down your sense of self. In this episode, learn: 1. Why love bombing is conditioning that creates rapid pseudo-intimacy and makes you feel uniquely seen 2. How predators manufacture dependency by playing the sympathetic victim 3. How devaluation disguised as "helpful advice" slides into gaslighting that rewrites your memory and makes you doubt your feelings 4. Why submission and loss of self leave you centered entirely on keeping them happy while you disappear 5. How intermittent reinforcement re-hooks you right when you're ready to leave  00:00 Why smart people get stuck in trauma bonds 01:19 How Kerry discovered trauma bonding 03:45 Who exploiters target, and why it's you 05:20 Stage 1: Love bombing 06:37 Stage 2: Trust and dependency 11:22 Stage 3: Devaluation 12:18 Stages 4 and 5: Gaslighting and shrinking 13:16 Stage 6: Loss of self, and the cycle restarts 14:15 Why your intelligence works against you 16:47 Why knowing about narcissists doesn't protect you 17:46 Pavlov's dog: how you were conditioned 20:03 Where your real power is #TraumaBonding #LoveBombing #Gaslighting #NarcissisticAbuse #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #EmotionalAbuse #ToxicRelationship #NarcissistRedFlags #TraumaRecovery #MentalHealth Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  5. Oct 12

    Why Narcissists Need Ongoing Drama: It's All About Keeping You Exhausted & Under Control

    Have you noticed how the narcissist’s apology never is an apology? How yesterday's fight get rewritten so you’re the villain? In this episode, Kerry and Lynn Strathdee expose the hidden mechanics behind chronic antagonism. Why some narcissists need ongoing drama to stay in control and to keep you exhausted. The history-rewriting along with the non-stop crisis cycle are to keep you under control so you’re centering your life around them. It's about supply and control. WANT TO GO DEEPER? In the exclusive podcast extra, Kerry and Lynn get practical. Learn how to spot the pattern vs. a one-off bad day. Discover how to protect your energy and plan an exit. Get immediate access to this and 100+ premium interviews when you join as a Super Thriver in the Toxic-Free Relationship Club today. Join here — https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLQyhjWUzWrBfoQlC5ZotQ/join LYNN STRATHDEE is a UK-based psychodynamic psychotherapist specializing in echoism and narcissistic abuse recovery, and former educator helping adults reclaim identity after chronic antagonism. WEBSITE: https://echoismrecovery.com/ 00:00 They feed off drama: conflict keeps you in line 00:47 When the fight isn't really about the fight 03:26 Some people feed off conflict 05:11 How the fight-and-make-up cycle builds a trauma bond 08:48 They matter, you don't 09:39 "I felt replaceable" 11:44 Scripted intimacy: the strawberry date 13:47 We walk into relationships hungry 17:22 Why you didn't see it coming 18:37 They want attention, not connection 20:46 When they cast you in a role 25:53 Shadow: why the good stuff is hardest to own 28:11 Preview: rewriting history to dodge the blame #Narcissist #NarcissisticAbuse #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #Gaslighting #CovertNarcissist #ToxicRelationships #EmotionalAbuse #TraumaBonding #Boundaries #MentalHealth Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  6. Oct 8

    Reactive Abuse: 4 Questions That Reveal Who Was Really the Dangerous One in the Room

    Reactive abuse isn't a sign you've become the abusive one. It's the predictable end of a setup: months of provocation, timed for the moment you finally break.  In this highlight from Kerry's weekly live Q&A, she takes on the night so many survivors never tell anyone about. When you, as the survivor, lost it. She also explains why the better question isn't "What's wrong with me?" but "What was being done to me?" In this episode, learn: • The four questions that reveal who in the room was actually the dangerous one • Why they bait you into reacting, then use it to tell everyone how unstable you are • How exhaustion, deprivation and constant provocation wear down anyone's self-control • Gray rock vs. yellow rock, and why snark is still engagement • "Is this an old feeling or a new feeling?" — the question that steadies you in the moment 00:00 The night you don't tell anyone about 01:59 Screaming in the shower 04:02 What the teacher never saw 05:58 Question 1: Whose arousal went up? 09:57 Question 2: Did your distress slow them down or speed them up? 12:41 Question 3: Was there repair afterward? 14:29 Why you finally broke 19:10 Question 4: Who ended up apologizing? 20:14 Gray rock vs. yellow rock: stop feeding the provocation 24:06 Is this an old feeling or a new feeling? #ReactiveAbuse #NarcissisticAbuse #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #GrayRockMethod #YellowRock #SmearCampaign #EmotionalAbuse #AbusiveRelationship #TraumaRecovery #HealingJourney Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  7. Oct 5 ·  Video

    Dr. Les Carter: Stop Trying to Make a Narcissist Understand You — Do This Instead

    Are You Feeling Stuck?Take my FREE “Toxic or Troubled?” survey to discover your relationship type and get instant access to a complete, private mini-course—educational overviews, reflective questions, grounding techniques, and new strategies tailored to your situation.▶ Start here: https://kerrymcavoyphd.fillout.com/toxic-troubled-survey —— What if every explanation you offer becomes ammunition? Have you noticed how a narcissist stays one-up without ever having to raise their voiceIn this episode, Kerry and Dr. Les Carter expose the hidden power mechanics that keep you arguing in circles. Many narcissists use the Gotcha Game which flips every conversation into a confrontation because it’s all about power. WANT TO GO DEEPER? In the exclusive podcast extra, Kerry and Les get practical. Learn how to hold your ground, take your exit, and let go of the need to convince them. Get immediate access to this and 100+ premium interviews when you join as a paid Substack subscriber today. Join here -> https://substack.com/@breakingfreenarcabuseDR. LES CARTER is the creator of Surviving Narcissism, an author and educator helping survivors build self-trust, healthy boundaries, and stay out of the power trap with a narcissist.WEBSITE: https://survivingnarcissism.tv/#Narcissist #NarcissisticAbuse #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #Gaslighting #CovertNarcissist #ToxicRelationships #EmotionalAbuse #Boundaries #SelfTrust #MentalHealth Submit your question to be answered on air here! Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

  8. Oct 1 ·  Video

    They Didn't Miss You, They Ran Out of Money: How Hoovering Actually Works

    Future faking hoovering isn't a change of heart. It's a second round of grooming, aimed at exactly what the first round wanted.In this highlight from Kerry's weekly live Q&A, she takes on what's actually happening when someone shows up with flowers, apologies and a raked pile of leaves after months of silence — and why the answer has almost nothing to do with you.In this episode:• Why not being hoovered is a read on what you had left to give• Hoovering is a role vacancy, not a longing• Love bombing and hoovering: one objective, two stages, two sets of tools• Why "pathetic chasing behavior" isn't your flaw — it's how humans are built• The two questions that decode any hoover: what do they need, and why now?#Hoovering #FutureFaking #NarcissisticHoovering #NarcissisticAbuse #LoveBombing #NoContact #EmotionalAbuse #NarcissisticAbuseRecovery #TraumaRecovery #HealingJourney Submit your question to be answered on air here! Resources The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support Follow Kerry! Youtube Instagram TikTok Facebook Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust. As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases. This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).

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Confused by your relationship? Do you catch yourself second-guessing, walking on eggshells, or feeling emotionally drained? Whether you’re still in the chaos or trying to rebuild after leaving, this podcast is your lifeline. Join Dr. Kerry McAvoy as she exposes the hidden dynamics of toxic relationships. You’ll learn how destructive personalities operate, the manipulative tactics they use, and the stages of abuse—plus the practical steps to heal and reclaim your life. If you’re ready to break free, rebuild your self-worth, and find lasting emotional freedom, hit play and start your recovery journey today.

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