Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes

Grant Hermes

Politics has never been more chaotic, and most podcasts just add to the noise. Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes cuts through it. Grant is an AP Award-winning journalist with over a decade of on-the-ground reporting on the biggest political stories, scandals, and elections in America. Twice a week, he takes the stories dominating the headlines and breaks them down in plain English — no jargon, no spin, no shouting. If you care about what’s happening in this country but you’re exhausted by how it’s being covered, this is the show for you. Real reporting. Clear explanations. Actual context. Make It Make Sense drops three times a week. Subscribe so you never miss it.

  1. 7h ago

    What Just Happened In Michigan?

    Abdul El-Sayed beat Congresswoman Haley Stevens in the Michigan Democratic Senate primary by one point. He had a 15-point lead in polls going in. Grant was on the ground for election night and breaks down exactly what happened, why the race was so much closer than expected, and why the gap between the polling and the result almost certainly came down to Black voters in and around Detroit — their connection to Obama's auto industry rescue, lingering resentment over El-Sayed's ties to the Uncommitted Movement, and real skepticism about a Muslim candidate even in the state with the highest Arab-American population in the country. The Detroit NAACP president put it plainly to CNN: "Are you going to be more concerned about the West Bank than the West Side of Detroit?" Then the race immediately became something else. Within hours of El-Sayed winning, the National Republican Senate Committee released a press release using his full birth name to imply he's a dangerous foreigner. He was born in Rochester Hills, Michigan. Trump said he hates Jews. His opponent Mike Rogers accused him of supporting 9/11. White House advisor Laura Loomer called him part of the "browning of America." AIPAC spent $30 million against El-Sayed in the primary and vowed to keep spending through November. And then the Democratic establishment launched its own attack. Third Way, an establishment Democratic group, announced it will spend $15 million between now and 2028 to discredit democratic socialism — in a year when the party is $2 million in the red and being outspent by Republicans by $132 million. The head of Third Way called progressive candidates a "mortal danger" to the party. Grant explains why this is now the most important Senate race in the country and what comes next. Cheers to two Years of Make It Make Sense! Independent journalism only works with your support, so thank you! The price is still $5/month, but that changes August 20th. Subscribe now to lock in $5/month or $50/year! CHAPTERS 0:00 — El-Sayed wins Michigan by one point. The most important primary just became the most important midterm race. 1:30 — What happened to the 15-point lead: why Michigan is hard to poll and what the turnout numbers tell us 3:00 — Why Republicans crossing party lines to vote for Stevens doesn't hold up 4:00 — The real story: Black voters in Detroit, the auto industry, the Uncommitted Movement, and Muslim skepticism 5:30 — The Detroit NAACP president: "Are you more concerned about the West Bank than the West Side of Detroit?" 6:30 — Within hours: the NRSC uses his full birth name, Trump says he hates Jews, Rogers accuses him of supporting 9/11 8:00 — Laura Loomer calls El-Sayed part of the "browning of America." He was born in Rochester Hills, Michigan. 9:00 — AIPAC spent $30 million against him in the primary and vows to keep spending through November 9:45 — El-Sayed's response at his victory rally the morning after 10:30 — Sponsor break 11:30 — The Democratic establishment's own attack: Third Way spends $15 million to fight progressive candidates 13:00 — The DSA wave: El-Sayed, Mamdani, Rabb, Kiros, McKinney — a national pattern, not an accident 14:30 — Why the Democratic Party is fighting itself with $15 million while $2 million in the red 15:30 — Why this is now the most important midterm race in the country Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  2. 2d ago

    The Pentagon Is Out of Missiles and Crowdsourcing Ideas To Win In Iran

    Four stories today, none of them good for anyone in charge. On Iran: Trump said the US was on the verge of its largest attack since World War Two. He called it off just before markets opened Monday. A CNN exclusive revealed the Pentagon is now asking rank-and-file troops for "creative and unconventional" ideas for how to punish Iran because there is no plan. A Reuters exclusive revealed the US has used virtually all of its interceptor missiles — not low, not running short, nearly all of them. There is no plan and no capability to respond to a counterstrike. On the reflecting pool: Trump's hand-picked US attorney, former Fox News host Jeanine Pirro, dropped charges against Olympic kayaker David Hearn because the Department of Interior's own engineer had inspected the pool a week before the arrest and documented that the peeling was caused by a botched installation, not vandalism. Trump admitted in the Oval Office that the job was rushed and he knew about it. Grant and multiple other journalists have asked for the surveillance video Trump claims shows vandalism. Nobody has it. On Todd Blanche: around midnight Sunday, Blanche filed two pages agreeing that the slush fund is dead and that Trump's IRS immunity only applies retroactively — protecting the Trump family from audits or prosecution for anything before May 19th, 2026, which covers exactly the window in which they made billions in crypto deals. Legal scholars say the document may not be binding, is only signed by Blanche, and could be undone the moment he's confirmed. On the DNC: the author of the Democrats' 2024 election autopsy gave the New York Times the 28-page chapter that was deliberately left out of the public report. That chapter found Biden's decision to run despite never cracking 50% approval was the central failure of 2024. The DNC disputes ever seeing it. Grant checked — the autopsy page on the DNC's own website has been taken down. Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  3. 6d ago

    Did Trump Use the CIA to Lie About 2020? Ex-Intel Officers Say Maybe

    When Trump released a tranche of declassified documents to support his national address claiming China stole the 2020 election, most reporters treated them as intelligence products. A 20-year CIA analyst and a former head of the National Security Council looked at them differently. Julia Curlee spent two decades as a CIA analyst, including serving as a presidential daily briefer and director for the National Security Council for both the Biden and Trump White Houses. Steve Cash is a former CIA counterterrorism officer and the head of The Steady State. Together they explain Steady State's new report this week asking Congress to investigate whether the CIA was weaponized to produce politically motivated intelligence for the president's election speech. Their finding: when you put the Venezuela document and the China document side by side, one looks like a product of the CIA's Directorate of Analysis.  The other does not.  The dates and the producing office are redacted, which are not classified. The sourcing includes what appears to be field reporting from a source who heard from a friend of a friend that China was making fake IDs using TikTok addresses. That ended up in the same document as formal CIA assessments. Julia and Steve also explain how career CIA officers are walking out the door and not being replaced, why the people who would normally apply for those jobs are now being told not to by the people who mentored them, why the only historical parallel for what's happening to the intelligence community is the McCarthy era, and what Congress needs to do right now, not next week, not next term, to start fixing the broken system.  Cheers to two Years of Make It Make Sense! Independent journalism only works with your support, so thank you! The price is still $5/month, but that changes August 20th. Subscribe now to lock in $5/month or $50/year! MAKE IT MAKE SENSE SUBSTACK THE STEADY STATE ELECTION DOCUMENTS ASSESSMENT THE STEADY STATE JULIA CURLEE AT LAWFARE CHAPTERS: 0:00 The China election documents don't look right. Two CIA veterans explain what they saw. 4:05 Meet Julia Curlee: 20-year CIA analyst, NSC director, presidential daily briefer for both Biden and Trump 5:25 Julia's first reaction to the documents: I have never seen intelligence released for such a direct partisan political end 7:04 The alarm bells: the 2020 ICA findings have been public for years. There is no deep state cover-up. 7:54 Venezuela vs. China: put both documents side by side and something is immediately wrong 9:01 Steve's reaction: he expected a declaration of emergency. Instead Trump said thank you and goodnight. 10:44 Why "there was no there there" and what the accidental Russia finding inside the documents means 13:36 Raw intelligence vs. finished analysis: how the CIA actually works and why the China document breaks the rules 15:02 Directorate of Analysis vs. Directorate of Operations: the inside battle and why it matters here 17:02 "Malevolence tempered by incompetence" — and why it's still pretty damn malevolent 18:01 What questions Congress needs to demand answers to: who produced this, when, and who tasked it 33:24 Trump is doing the adversaries' work for them: why China and Russia no longer need to target Americans 34:30 A generation of CIA officers has walked out and will not be replaced: what that actually costs us 35:29 Steve tells college students not to apply to the CIA anymore. He explains why. 37:51 The conspiracy of silence: clearances, health insurance, and the new McCarthy era in Washington 39:11 What Congress needs to do — not next, not later, now 42:01 Democrats being told "no" on every oversight request: they won't even give us an address for the Pentagon Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  4. Jul 30

    Fauci Pleads The Fifth 111 Times

    Two stories this week, connected by one thread: what happens to people who don't follow Trump in lockstep. Todd Blanche, Trump's personal criminal attorney who lost the New York hush money trial making Trump a felon 34 times over, may have his attorney general nomination withdrawn. Two outgoing Republican senators, John Cornyn and Thom Tillis, want Blanche to sign a piece of paper agreeing to follow a federal judge's order shutting down the $1.8 billion slush fund and ending Trump's IRS immunity deal. Blanche has refused. The judge previously accused Trump and Blanche of colluding to use her courtroom to legitimize an immunity deal for the president's personal benefit. Cornyn and Tillis are the only two making noise because they're leaving office in January and have nothing to lose. Anthony Fauci appeared before the Senate yesterday for a hearing led by Rand Paul. Biden issued Fauci a blanket preemptive pardon on his last day in office, so the hearing was widely understood to be an attempt to get Fauci to commit perjury, which would not be covered by that pardon. Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment 111 times. Senator Josh Hawley posted a video of himself asking Fauci what color his tie was, then said "no honest person pleads the Fifth." Donald Trump pled the Fifth 450 times in his 2022 New York civil deposition. Hawley is a trained lawyer and knows this. Grant also plays Senator Bernie Moreno's tirade about a woman who was arrested for refusing to wear a mask at a school, including the part Moreno left out: the woman repeatedly refused to comply, resisted arrest multiple times, and Moreno himself authored a bill mandating 20-year minimum sentences for assaulting an officer and resisting arrest. This week's Substack: how the White House is running out of midterm options and turning to the Supreme Court's shadow docket. CHAPTERS 0:00 Two stories, one thread: what happens when you don't follow Trump in lockstep 2:00 Todd Blanche may never become a real attorney general: Trump threatens to pull the nomination 3:30 What Cornyn and Tillis actually want: a signature confirming the slush fund and IRS deal are dead 5:00 The judge's verdict: Trump and Blanche colluded to use her courtroom to legitimize a presidential immunity deal 6:30 Why only two senators are making noise: they're leaving in January and have nothing to lose 8:00 What happens if Blanche's nomination is withdrawn: the law that lets him stay acting AG forever 9:30 Two signs Trump's power is withering: he'd rather lose a legal AG than give up the IRS deal 11:00 SAYSO NEWS APP 12:30 Fauci back on Capitol Hill: why this hearing was a perjury trap and how Fauci beat it 14:00 Fauci invokes the Fifth 111 times. Trump pled it 450. Josh Hawley says only one of them is guilty. 16:00 Bernie Moreno's mask mandate story: what he said, what he left out, and what his own bill says about it 18:30 Deborah Birx explains what this is really about: Fauci's original sin was not following Trump's orders 20:00 The thread connecting both stories: the Republican Party remains consumed by fealty to Trump no matter the cost Cheers to two Years of Make It Make Sense! Independent journalism only works with your support, so thank you! The price is still $5/month, but that changes August 20th. Subscribe now to lock in $5/month or $50/year! makeitmakesensepod.substack.com Join the SaySo News App! SaySo is a brand new news app built for people who actually want to be informed, not just keep scrolling. No outrage-chasing algorithm, no AI slop, just vetted creators delivering fact-driven coverage you can get through in a few minutes a day. I'm one of the early creators on the platform, posting there alongside others I trust. Check it out and download SaySo Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  5. Jul 28

    98 Days Out. Republicans Are Drowning. Democrats Are Broke.

    98 days to the midterms. Here is where both parties actually stand. Republicans: Trump has a 30% approval rating and every Republican running has to tie themselves to it. The party has raised $130 million plus Trump's $400 million war chest... but Trump is withholding all of it until the Senate passes the Save America Act. The votes aren't there. The clock runs out August 4th when states enter the 90-day quiet period and can no longer touch voter rolls. Seven Republican senators are threatening to vote against going home for summer recess. Mike Johnson told his caucus to pray. Democrats: The DNC has $16 million in the bank and $18 million in debt. They put up their headquarters as collateral. They are asking vendors not to bill them until after the election. The party chair, Ken Martin, threw a phone at a staffer during a meeting, has been forcing staff to sign NDAs for routine internal conversations, and is reportedly paralyzed by fear of leaks. The party opened an HR investigation. Grant was on a Democratic donor call yesterday. He shares what he actually heard: a party that sounds more frantic than energized, running war room scenarios in battleground states for what happens when Trump tries to undermine the results, and asking for $4 million for voter protection programs that still need 18 directors to be hired in under 3.5 months. The good news for Democrats: individual candidates in the top Senate and House races are outraising Republicans by significant margins. The DNC being broke doesn't mean the candidates are. The map: Democrats need a net 3 House seats. 18 are toss-ups. In the Senate, they need to flip 4 while defending 2. Alaska, Maine, Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Texas, North Carolina, and New Hampshire are all in play. 2 years of Make It Make Sense! Still $5/month --- but not for much longer. Lock in the founding price before August 20th. Link below. makeitmakesensepod.substack.com Join the SaySo News App! SaySo is a brand new news app built for people who actually want to be informed, not just keep scrolling. No outrage-chasing algorithm, no AI slop, just vetted creators delivering fact-driven coverage you can get through in a few minutes a day. I'm one of the early creators on the platform, posting there alongside others I trust. Check it out and download SaySo Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  6. Jul 24

    We Don't Know How To Get Out Of Iran And It's Everyone's Problem

    Eric Zuleger is back on the show! He's the reporter and analyst behind The Under Report. He spent 10 days on the ground in Lebanon during active conflict, got clearances from the Lebanese Ministry of Information, the Lebanese Armed Forces, and Hezbollah itself, and just returned. This is his first extended conversation about what he actually saw. Grant and Eric open on Trump's election speech and what it looks like from a national security and information operations perspective. Eric's frame: there are three simultaneous information space operations happening right now, one from China, one from Russia, one from inside the White House, and the president is doing the work of America's adversaries for them. He breaks down exactly how Russian, Chinese, and Iranian information operations differ in their goals and tactics, including how China used Facebook groups to kill a rare earth processing plant in Texas without anyone knowing it was a Chinese operation. On Iran: Eric explains why the US has broken the fundamental post-1945 security bargain with its Gulf allies. The deal was: host our bases, gain protection. Instead, they became targets. Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are now looking at Washington and asking what they're actually getting from this arrangement. Eric predicts the casualty numbers will keep climbing and explains why Iran has far more military capability than the US has publicly acknowledged. On Lebanon: what Beirut actually looks and feels like right now, the Israeli drone that appears every day between noon and two that the locals call "our least favorite aunt who never leaves," 1.2 million displaced people folded into the city's architecture, and the four distinct rings of Hezbollah support that Israeli and American policy collapses into one category. He stood in a shrine to Hassan Nasrallah during Ashura, surrounded by men weeping for their dead, and explains what gets lost when that becomes a 15-second news clip. 0:00 America doesn't know what it's doing on the world stage anymore and a reporter just got back from Lebanon 2:03 Albania update: 50 days of protests, the flamingos are still marching, and Eric just returned from 10 days in Lebanon 2:42 Three simultaneous information operations: China, Russia, and the one happening from inside the White House 4:00 What "claiming the real estate between your ears" actually means in information warfare 6:36 China's self-own argument: Trump's election speech hands Beijing its best propaganda in years 7:54 The bargain of democracy and why more people on both sides are saying "tear the whole thing down" 9:50 Mile markers for democratic backsliding: we are a struggling democracy, not a failed state 14:59 What voting looks like in Transnistria: a Kalashnikov in the booth, a free iPad for the right vote 16:44 The president is doing the work of America's adversaries for them. There's no other way to see it. 27:43 How Russian information operations actually work: the fire hose of falsehoods and leaving gaps for people to fill 29:32 QAnon as Lovecraftian horror: why you never describe the monster 29:49 Russia vs. China: completely different goals, completely different tactics in the information space 32:00 How China killed a US rare earth processing plant in Texas using Facebook groups without anyone knowing 33:26 The Iran war as a bug in the American operating system: how the post-1945 security bargain is breaking 36:30 Gulf states as targets: Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are asking what they're actually getting from US bases 55:39 Four nuclear threats in five months: more than any president since Truman 56:42 "Death to America" chants vs. American leadership threatening to erase countries: the double standard 59:20 On the ground in Beirut: the Israeli drone that appears every day, 1.2 million displaced, and life folded into rubble 1:04:06 The four rings of Hezbollah support and why collapsing them into one category is wrong and dangerous 1:07:27 AI, bomb-making, and why the US military imagination is stuck in 1980s Afghanistan 1:10:24 Inside the shrine to Hassan Nasrallah during Ashura: what gets lost in a 15-second news clip 1:14:59 Eric's Lebanon reporting, the Next 90 Days forecast, and where to find The Underreport The Under Report Make It Make Sense Substack Join the SaySo News App! SaySo is a brand new news app built for people who actually want to be informed, not just keep scrolling. No outrage-chasing algorithm, no AI slop, just vetted creators delivering fact-driven coverage you can get through in a few minutes a day. I'm one of the early creators on the platform, posting there alongside others I trust. Check it out and download SaySo Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  7. Jul 23

    You've Paid $1,341 in Tariffs And Congress Just Left for Summer

    The House of Representatives left for summer recess today. In their final 48 hours they passed three bills and sent them to the Senate. The continuing resolution: the government stays funded at current levels until December 4th, kicking the budget fight to just before the holidays, again. The stock trading ban: it bans members of Congress from buying stocks but not selling them, which is where the money is made, and Republicans slipped a federal voter ID mandate into the bill specifically to make Democrats vote against it. Thomas Massie said so publicly on Twitter. The war powers resolution: the House voted again to force Trump to get Congressional approval for the Iran war, with four Republicans crossing the aisle. The Senate version failed by three votes. On tariffs: the temporary tariffs expire at midnight Friday. Since Trump placed his original tariffs last March, Americans have paid more than $468 billion total, or $1,341 per person, through May alone. That number has grown since then and does not include the tens of billions in refunds the government has been forced to pay back to companies. The new round coming this weekend will hit 60 countries with tariffs of 10 to 12.5% on goods the US says were made using forced labor. Trump originally said the Canada tariffs were because of the wildfires. Then he changed the reason. Grant explains what the actual reason is, and why it involves a bridge in Detroit called the Gordie Howe Bridge. A new Fox News poll finds Democrats lead Republicans by 7 points on a generic ballot, lead on every major issue including immigration and the economy, and have an 11-point enthusiasm gap. The poll is from Fox News. Cheers to two years of Make It Make Sense! Independent journalism only works with your support, so thank you! The price is still $5/month, but that changes August 20th. Subscribe now to lock in $5/month or $50/year! mimsnewspod.substack.com CHAPTERS 0:00 The House leaves for summer. Here's what they did in the last 48 hours. 2:00 The continuing resolution: government funded until December 4th, shutdown fight delayed until holidays 3:30 The stock trading ban that isn't: you can sell but not buy, and Republicans hid a voter ID mandate inside it 5:30 Thomas Massie admits it publicly: the bill was designed to make Democrats vote against a stock trading ban 7:00 The House war powers vote: four Republicans cross the aisle again, Senate version fails by three votes 8:30 The new Fox News poll: Democrats lead by 7 points, lead on every issue, 11-point enthusiasm gap 10:00 Mike Johnson breaks with the White House on Iran: what he said and why it matters 11:30 SaySo News App  13:00 Tariffs expire at midnight Friday: what the temporary tariffs were and why they're ending 14:30 $468 billion paid in tariffs since March: $1,341 per American man, woman, and child through May alone 16:00 The Canada tariffs: Trump said it was the wildfires, then changed the reason on camera 17:30 The real reason: the Gordie Howe Bridge in Detroit, and what Trump wants from Canada 19:00 The new round: 60 countries, 10 to 12.5% tariffs, forced labor justification, Supreme Court workaround 20:30 What this means for prices: the Fed says tariffs are driving inflation and there is no end in sight SaySo is a brand new news app built for people who actually want to be informed, not just keep scrolling. No outrage-chasing algorithm, no AI slop, just vetted creators delivering fact-driven coverage you can get through in a few minutes a day. I'm one of the early creators on the platform, posting there alongside others I trust. Check it out and download SaySo Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

  8. Jul 21

    Trump Is Entering His Escalation Era

    Last weekend was the deadliest stretch of the Iran war in months. Three US service members were killed and one is still missing after strikes on US bases in Iraq and Jordan. The total US death toll is now 17, higher than the Afghanistan evacuation that nearly derailed the Biden presidency. The New York Times reported that the Pentagon had withheld nearly 100 casualties for weeks. The Wall Street Journal found that service members on the Jordan base were being housed in sheet metal prefabricated containers. Goldman Sachs now says oil could hit $120 a barrel. Trump, when asked about a peace plan, said the plan is to keep bombing. On the home front: DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin announced the department would go after alleged non-citizens on voter rolls using public voter data, then threatened state election officials who refuse to comply with federal election takeover efforts with prison time. The clock is August 4th, when the 90-day pre-election quiet period kicks in and states can no longer alter voter rolls. Grant also breaks down the New Jersey non-citizen voting story that broke today, what it actually shows (a vendor error affecting 6,600 people out of 4.2 million votes), and why Tom Homan said this week that ICE shooting unarmed immigrants who were not subjects of their investigations was intentional and that more are coming. This is the two-year anniversary episode of Make It Make Sense. In two years: three episodes a week, weekly original reporting, a civics project, culture essays, and interviews with the people actually shaping the stories. Go to MIMSNEWSPOD.SUBSTACK.COM to lock in your $5/mo price before the deal runs out!  CHAPTERS: 0:00 Two years of Make It Make Sense: what it took, and why the price is going up August 21st 3:00 The deadliest weekend of the Iran war: three US service members killed, one still missing 4:30 17 US soldiers dead: more than the Afghanistan evacuation that nearly ended Biden's presidency 5:30 The Pentagon hid nearly 100 casualties for weeks. The Wall Street Journal found why the Jordan base was so vulnerable. 7:00 Goldman Sachs: oil could hit $120 a barrel. The Strait of Hormuz is still closed. 8:00 Trump's peace plan: keep bombing 9:00 Hegseth in the Oval Office: Iran's military is 100% destroyed. So why are they still killing our soldiers? 10:30 SAYSO NEWS APP 12:00 DHS threatens to jail state election officials who refuse to hand over voter data 13:30 The August 4th deadline: why the clock is running out on the administration's election interference options 15:00 The SAVE system: how DOGE turned an immigration benefits database into a private data repository a federal judge banned 17:00 The New Jersey non-citizen voting story: what actually happened, what it means, and what it doesn't 19:00 400 votes out of 4.2 million: the math on whether a vendor error changes an election outcome 20:30 ICE arrests at record levels: 1,474 per day, and Tom Homan says the shootings of unarmed immigrants were on purpose 22:00 Sprint or marathon: is this escalation a news cycle or a strategy through November? Support the show Follow along on social media  SaySo: @GrantHermes  X: @GrantHermes Insta: @Grant__Hermes Tiktok: Grant_Hermes

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Politics has never been more chaotic, and most podcasts just add to the noise. Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes cuts through it. Grant is an AP Award-winning journalist with over a decade of on-the-ground reporting on the biggest political stories, scandals, and elections in America. Twice a week, he takes the stories dominating the headlines and breaks them down in plain English — no jargon, no spin, no shouting. If you care about what’s happening in this country but you’re exhausted by how it’s being covered, this is the show for you. Real reporting. Clear explanations. Actual context. Make It Make Sense drops three times a week. Subscribe so you never miss it.

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