Lunch Hour Legal Marketing

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Hosted by digital marketers Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is jam packed with tips and tricks for attracting more clients and business to your legal practice. Tune in twice a month for expert advice to turbocharge your firm’s ability to generate cash money.

DEC 11

Dial M for Mystery Shopper – Sponsored by CallRail

Intrigue! Drama! Suspense! Our victim, Paul Robinson Law, gets put through the wringer again with an after-hours secret shopper call plotted by Gyi and Conrad. ----- Before you get too delighted at the thought of hearing about the missteps of a fellow firm, remember—if you haven’t taken the time to fully engage with training and testing your in-house or third-party reception, your client intake might be dead in the water. So, did Paul’s firm successfully escalate the undercover shopper’s legal need? Gyi and Conrad analyze the experience and break down its good and bad elements to showcase how proper intake training, scripting, coaching, and emotional connection can foster a superior customer experience that will win you more clients. The News: Digital marketing luminaries Rand Fishkin and Greg Sterling have insights you need right now! Rand - The SEO opportunity pie shrinking and more insights and Greg - 300 Million Queries, Old Google, Cyber Week, Location Data Is Like Ground Beef Bluesky is really on the uptick. With 24 million users, a burgeoning SEO Community, and all your favorite legal tech peeps, is it the new place to be? - Amid X X-odus, Nothing But Bluesky from Now On | LawSites We’re getting used to disappointment - A Week Overdue, Google November 2024 Core Update Still Causing Volatility The TLTF Summit has wrapped up for this year, but keep an eye out for next year’s event for a chance to rub elbows with the best and brightest in legal tech. Thank you, loyal listeners! Spotify Wrapped showed stats that just make us uber grateful for you all. Also, the dirty, underhanded, belly of the internet turned on Gyi and Conrad in the form of Google Business Profile suspensions on the SAME day. Coincidence? They think not. But, that’s it for today—let’s hash all that out in the next episode. Other Episodes in the Paul Robinson Trilogy: Lawyer Website Roasted Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency Connect: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters - Times Approximate (0:00) Planting our Flag / GBP Suspensions (6:59) Legal Marketing News (17:53) Mystery Shopper Call

48 min
DEC 6 · BONUS

The Ultimate Gift Guide for Lawyers (2024)

The stockings are hung, the cocoa is steaming, and the time has come to talk about gifts! In this festive bonus episode, Conrad and Gyi are giving Santa Claus a run for his money with their epic gift guide. Find the best gadgets, books and gear for the lawyers who have everything and clients who you want to wow. Sleigh your holiday gifting game with Gyi and Conrad’s shoppable Amazon list here: https://amzn.to/4gndoJf

27 min
NOV 27

Lawyer Website Roasted

If the bio pic you chose for your website shows you standing in front of a shelf of law books… you might be in need of a website teardown. ----- Folks, we have a volunteer! As promised, the guys devote this episode to an in-depth diagnostic of a law firm website—one that might just look a whole heck of a lot like yours. Paul Robinson of Paul Robinson Law, PLLC offered up his personal injury law firm site to the merciless scrutiny of Gyi and Conrad. So if you, too, have been wondering whether your site is up to snuff, take a listen to the guys’ detailed teardown. From the first Google search to the nitty-gritty details of Paul’s site pages, they discuss both the failings and successes and explain smart, effective strategies all lawyers can employ to improve web presence and reach target clients. Watch on YouTube Suggested LHLM Episodes: Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency Does My Website Suck? | Law Firm Website Teardown Local SEO 2024: How to Rank AND Expand Your Law Firm Connect: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

43 min
NOV 21 · BONUS

Game Changing Insights for Brand Building Success

Join Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam live from the Crisp Game Changer Summit, where they dive into game-changing insights for law firm marketing and branding success. From Michael Mogill's big announcement of Streaming Stack to strategies for building your brand through digital and omni-channel advertising, this episode is packed with actionable takeaways. 📺 Watch on YouTube You'll hear our thoughts on: The value of brand-building before clients need you Effective targeting strategies to make the most of your marketing budget Why retargeting and leveraging first-party data are gold for law firms Fresh insights on how to connect with your audience and stay top of mind Whether you're a solo attorney or part of a growing firm, these tips will help you stand out in a competitive legal market. Don’t miss our scoop on the quiet LawRank acquisition and our take on branding do's and don’ts for lawyers. Pro tip: Stick around for creative marketing ideas you’ve never thought of before! Hit subscribe and drop your questions or comments below—we love hearing from you. Recommended Episodes: What is Dark Social and Why it Matters HELP! My Marketing Agency Was Acquired — What You NEED To Know Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) LHLM at Crisp Summit 2024 (1:54) Crisp Announces Streaming Stack: TV Streaming, Digital Campaigns (4:02) EverService Invests in Law Rank (10:50) Brand Building 101 (15:46) Optimizing Audience Segments and Targeting (19:07) Retargeting and Lookalike Audiences (24:11) Targeted Saturation (30:27) Brand Affinity > Brand Awareness (34:57) Forbes - Best Lawyer Near Me

41 min
NOV 13

Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency

Get the 411 on everything you need to think through before you get on the line with a prospective ad agency. ----- This episode is off the hook, y’all. Working with a professional marketer could be the key to unlocking new possibilities for your law firm, but sometimes it’s tricky to dial in on the most important questions to ask as you vet an agency. In a bit of LHLM Theatre, Gyi and Conrad play the parts of curious lawyer and potential marketer engaging in the right business conversations as they begin their fruitful working relationship. Lawyers will learn how to ask questions that give meaningful insights into future growth and hear the sort of tactics marketers should be serving up in your consultation. Stay on the line—our next episode features another law firm website teardown! The News: ChatGPT Search is available now! Go check it out. A GenAI question box from Google looks to be a pretty promising tool: Google Business Profiles Learn Something Specific Question Box. More Conrad & Gyi on some special podcast appearances - Answering Legal: Law Firm Reboot Camp Podcast and Profit, Scale, Thrive. Suggested LHLM Episodes: LinkedInGPT || Red Flags for Firing Your Agency How Not To Use TikTok For Your Law Firm || 5 Tips to Increase Referrals Connect: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

37 min
OCT 30 · BONUS

SHOCKING Insights from Clio’s 2024 Legal Trends Report

AI replacing lawyers… undercapitalized marketing budgets… unanswered calls… the horror! Clio’s 2024 Legal Trends Report is a scary-good resource for attorneys, and the insights from its massive data set are super helpful from oh-so many angles. The guys unwrap their top fun-size tidbits for discussion and offer tips for applying them in your law firm. They discuss the AI revolution, stats on law firm communications, tactics for higher conversion rates, and more. Read the full report! It’s here, and it’s free: Clio’s 2024 Legal Trends Report Mentioned in this Episode: BEDLAM - Mockingbird Client Conference Connect: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

37 min
OCT 23

Diary of an In-House Marketing Director

Your underutilized, underappreciated marketing directors are writing quite the sob stories in their journals every night. Is your law firm worthy of their complaints? ----- Today, we’re picking the heart-shaped lock of every law firm marketing director’s innermost desires and disappointments. Gyi and Conrad unpack the age-old issues between marketers and those they serve to (hopefully) broaden understanding for both sides. They outline some of the common mistakes made by each party—lawyers v. marketers—and give tactical advice for collaboration that encourages the bloom of efficiency and profitability. They pick apart the faulty ideology around referrals, search, and marketing budgets that could be stunting your firm’s growth and your marketer’s potential. Later, which should you pick—Ahrefs or Semrush? The guys answer a listener question on which, if either, of these tools is best, but not without a few caveats. The News: Search Engine Land Acquired by Semrush – Eh, this probably isn’t great for Search Engine Land’s readers. There’s got to be some sort of stupid Type-A ego B.S. going on with this whole situation: WP Engine asks court to stop Matt Mullenweg from blocking access to WordPress resources - The Verge. Allison McKeen, Ryan McKeen, and Brittany Green launched a great new book (and may, or may not, be Mando fans)! – The Way: A Simple Roadmap for Leading a Healthy Law Firm Suggested Episodes: Dear State Bar Regulator - South Carolina Edition Connect: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

37 min
OCT 9

Are You Wasting Money on Legal Directories?

In the wake of yet another legal tech acquisition, the guys offer up tactical insights on legal directories. These paid listings for attorneys have been around for ages, but are they actually bringing customers to your law firm? ----- Steeper and steeper prices for online legal directories are making many lawyers really question whether the juice is worth the squeeze. So, is it? As the old attorney saying goes—it depends. Gyi and Conrad outline the potential value and downsides of directories and how to vet these services to ensure your investment is worthwhile. The News: Instability, uncertainty… not a good look. What’s going on, Wordpress? – WP Engine vs. WP Google AI Overview ads launch on mobile in U.S. – Because, you know, they’ve got to keep up in the AI arms race. Apparently, Conrad has powers of divination! – Internet Brands buys Findlaw Conrad wrote a great article on brand costs in PPC for SearchEngineLand – Branded keywords: How Google Ads drives up CPCs Suggested Episodes: Online Legal Directories, Worth Your Time (And Dough)? 5 Ways To Make Your Google Profile Pop || Is Your Chat Service Selling Your Leads? Mentioned in this Episode: Guide to Escaping FindLaw - FindLaw Jailbreak Guide | Mockingbird The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

44 min

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The Legal Marketing Pep Talk You Didn’t Know You Needed

Dec 4

LHLM Fan 4 Lyfe

Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is the espresso shot my marketing brain craves! Gyi and Conrad are like the Odd Couple of legal marketing—one’s the suave SEO wizard, the other’s the cantankerous yet lovable curmudgeon of strategy (you know which is which). Their banter is unmatched, their insights are chef’s-kiss brilliant, and their tips are so practical, you’ll wonder how you ever got by without them. If you’re in legal marketing, run a firm, or just love a good laugh while learning, this podcast is your new best friend. Bonus points for the sound effects, surprise tangents, and the occasional dad joke. Can we nominate this duo for podcast sainthood already? Five stars, a round of applause, and a subscription for life!
A Masterclass in Legal Marketing!

Nov 29

Ken Levinson

If you're a lawyer looking to up your marketing game, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is a must-listen. Hosts Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam deliver an incredible mix of actionable advice, sharp insights, and genuine entertainment. These two know the legal marketing space inside and out, offering strategies that are as practical as they are innovative. What sets this podcast apart isn't just their expertise—though they clearly rank among the top minds in the field—but also the way they present it. Gyi and Conrad make complex marketing concepts accessible, with humor and charm that keeps you engaged. They manage to strike the perfect balance between being deeply informative and highly enjoyable. Beyond their professional prowess, Gyi and Conrad are class acts. They're not only brilliant marketers but also genuinely wonderful individuals. Their passion for helping lawyers succeed shines through in every episode. Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your firm's marketing strategy, this podcast is a goldmine of insights delivered by two of the most knowledgeable and personable experts around. Highly recommended!
Great info and fun listen

Nov 5

Howard383

I can’t recommend this podcast enough for lawyers looking to understand how to market their law firm. Every episode is packed with a ton of good information and they present it in a fun and entertaining way. I haven’t found a single episode I haven’t enjoyed.
Valuable takeaways with every episode

Jul 2

Steven Gursten

Both Gyi and Conrad bring knowledge, experience, wit and humor to every episode. I always learn something new. They have a great perspective from decades of legal marketing and they explain things in a pragmatic way so the listener can use the information. A truly valuable podcast well worth your time.