The Managing Partners Podcast: Law Firm Business Podcast

Kevin Daisey & Array Digital
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By tuning in to the leading business podcast for lawyers, you can discover how lawyer entrepreneurs are filling their case pipeline while growing their firms in the process. Kevin Daisey interviews today’s top law firm owners, managing partners, and legal experts who share what they’re doing to exponentially grow their law firm practices. We tackle your most pressing questions about leadership, operations, intake, finance, processes, sales, marketing, culture, and much more. The Managing Partners Podcast is hosted by Array Digital, the thought leader in law firm digital marketing. Subscribe for the latest legal marketing insights! arraydigital.com

  1. 2D AGO

    How One Trucking Niche Built a Law Firm Fast

    What happens when a lawyer goes all-in on a niche and builds relationships the right way? In this episode, Kevin Daisey sits down with Jordan Jones, founder of Los Angeles Truck Accident Lawyers, to unpack how he transitioned from a large Michigan firm to launching his own trucking-focused practice in California. Jordan breaks down how referrals, intentional networking, and disciplined spending helped him grow quickly without overextending his firm. They explore why trucking cases demand a different mindset, how law firm owners can avoid scaling traps, and why speaking and teaching outperform selling when it comes to long-term growth. This conversation is packed with real-world insights for managing partners navigating early-stage growth, staffing challenges, and operational maturity. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - Jordan Jones on The Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:07) - Truck Accident Lawyers: How Did We Get Connected?(00:03:17) - How To Start Your Own Law Firm on 24(00:07:49) - Starting a Business as a Web Designer(00:09:34) - Criminal Lawyer Gets Into Trucking(00:12:47) - How to Get a Deal on Your Car(00:13:02) - Truck Business: Where Are You?(00:16:28) - Ex-Truckers on Their Cases(00:17:46) - How to Win a Trucking Case(00:22:16) - What Makes a PI Lawyer So Motivated?(00:23:47) - Startups Are Worth It(00:26:55) - Jordan Jones on Speaking At Conferences

    30 min

  2. FEB 5

    Why Doing Everything Yourself Is Destroying Your Law Firm

    In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Michael Cowen, founder of Cowen Rodriguez Peacock, to break down how law firm owners can scale without burning out. Michael shares his journey from being unexpectedly thrust into firm ownership to building a multi-state practice focused on high-stakes trucking and personal injury litigation. They discuss why delegation is critical, how to hire the right people instead of doing everything yourself, and why law firm culture directly impacts marketing, intake, and long-term profitability. Michael also explains how referral-based firms must adapt to a changing digital landscape, the dangers of relying on a single marketing channel, and how law firm owners can reclaim their time while increasing firm value. If you’re a law firm owner trying to balance trial work, leadership, marketing, and quality of life, this episode delivers real-world insight you can apply immediately. Today’s episode is sponsored by Answering Legal. Click here to get started with your 400 minute free trial! https://thisisarray.com/answeringlegal/ Chapters (00:00:00) - Michael Cohen on the Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:12) - Starting Your Own Law Firm(00:02:52) - Owning Your Own Law Firm(00:06:38) - 4 Rules for More Money in the Office(00:12:09) - Letting Others Do It Their Way(00:14:00) - Law Firm Executives on Referral Marketing(00:20:04) - How to Build a Referral Based Marketing Practice(00:21:07) - Is intake important for marketing, advertising?(00:22:58) - What Can You Do to Make a Job Offer More Personal?(00:23:52) - Onboarding the Firm's Talent(00:30:03) - How to Make a Living as a Trial Lawyer(00:31:07) - Reach Out, Connect: Michael Owen(00:31:40) - Reach Out Trial Lawyer Nation Podcast

    33 min

  3. JAN 29

    Why More Leads Won’t Fix Your Law Firm

    Too many law firm owners believe the solution to their problems is more leads—but that mindset often leads to burnout, inefficiency, and frustration. In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey is joined by Jordan Ostroff to unpack the idea of “leads to lifestyle” and why intentional growth matters more than raw volume. Jordan shares his journey from prosecutor to firm owner to coach, including how cutting a massive marketing budget barely impacted revenue but completely transformed his quality of life. Together, they explore how intake, profitability, case selection, and personal vision play a bigger role in long-term success than flashy marketing tactics. This episode is a must-listen for law firm owners who want clarity, sustainability, and a firm that supports—not controls—their life. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - Managing Partners Podcast(00:01:59) - Jordan on Love Youe Law Firm, Second Edition(00:04:56) - How to Get Out of Jail: Marketing(00:06:16) - How to Make a Living as an Attorney(00:09:10) - Looking Ahead: How to Grow Your Law Firm?(00:14:13) - How to Start a Firm with a New Lawyer(00:19:03) - Don't Waste Time on Conferences(00:21:15) - How to Love the Journey(00:25:54) - Married Business People Talk About Their Personal Lives(00:28:51) - Confessions of an Extrovert Law Firm Owner(00:32:58) - In the Elevator With Introverts(00:34:44) - Jordan Ostrovs' New Book(00:35:39) - Covid Digital's Christmas Party(00:36:51) - Interview With Jordan

    38 min

  4. JAN 22

    How to Build a Winning Law Firm Culture That Attracts Top Talent

    In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Nick Mendez, co-founder of Horton & Mendez, to break down how intentional culture-building can become a law firm’s greatest competitive advantage. Nick shares how his firm scaled from a tiny office share during COVID to a statewide powerhouse with a $38 million jury verdict—all while building systems that attract, retain, and develop top legal talent. They dive deep into the seven critical needs every employee has, how to define core values that actually work, and why law firm owners must stop hiring “mercenaries” and start building teams of missionaries. If you’re struggling with hiring, retention, or internal alignment at your firm, this episode provides a clear roadmap for sustainable growth. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - The Managing Partners Podcast(00:02:14) - Can You Tell More About Your Law Firm?(00:07:29) - How to Build a Strong Partnerial Partnership(00:10:53) - 7 critical things employees need to know about their firm(00:11:43) - The Chick Fil A Law Firm Values(00:15:16) - 7 Critical Needs of Employees for EOS(00:19:09) - Hiring the Right People for the Core Values(00:24:30) - What Makes a Law Firm So Well-Off?(00:27:40) - Six Rules for Protecting Your Culture(00:31:34) - Fractional HR: Paying the Right People(00:33:26) - 7 critical needs for employees at your firm

    38 min

  5. JAN 15

    Law Firm Budgeting That Actually Works (With a Fractional CFO)

    Budgeting is one of the most overlooked and most critical skills for law firm owners. In this episode, Kevin Daisey is joined by Leah Miller, a fractional CFO who specializes in law firms, to break down how lawyers can finally get clarity around cash flow, expenses, marketing spend, and profitability. They discuss why so many firms struggle with budgeting, especially contingency and personal injury practices, and how simply reviewing your financial statements monthly can transform decision-making. Leah Miller shares practical frameworks for building a realistic budget, determining your true breakeven point, managing uneven cash flow, and avoiding common financial traps. You’ll also learn how budgeting impacts marketing, hiring, tax planning, and long-term growth, and why having the right financial conversations early can save years of stress later. Today’s episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. If you’re a law firm owner who wants to stop guessing and start leading with confidence, this episode is a must-listen. Chapters (00:00:00) - The Best Lawyers: Managing Partners Podcast(00:00:37) - Budgeting for Law Firm Executives(00:01:47) - How to Manage a Law Firm(00:05:49) - Law Firm Business Financials(00:10:35) - Budgeting for Marketing(00:13:39) - How to Manage Cash Flow in the Firm(00:16:38) - How many months of cash should a firm have on hand?(00:21:31) - How to Run a Business with a Roth IRA(00:27:34) - CFO vs Law Firm CFO: Making Smart Decisions(00:30:54) - Leah on Connecting With People

    32 min

  6. JAN 8

    Why Equal Partnerships Outlast Everything Else in Law Firms

    What does it really take to build a law firm that lasts? In this episode of the Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Brian Beckcom of VB Attorneys to discuss how his firm has thrived for more than 20 years with the same partner, the same team, and a clear philosophy around trust, systems, and growth. Brian shares hard-earned lessons from big law, plaintiff-side practice, digital marketing evolution, and why equal partnerships matter more than revenue splits. They also dive into remote work, firm culture, accountability, AI in legal practice, and what law firm owners must do today to build a business that doesn’t depend on them every minute of the day. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. This episode is a must-listen for law firm owners, managing partners, and attorneys thinking long-term about leadership and sustainability.

    32 min

  7. 12/18/2025

    The Secret to Authentic Marketing for Lawyers (It’s Not Perfection)

    In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Will Brooks of Leduc Entertainment to talk about authentic content creation for law firm owners. Will shares his powerful mindset shifts on overcoming fear, starting imperfectly, and finding your authentic voice on camera. Learn how attorneys can use social media, podcasts, and local partnerships to grow their brands and build genuine community engagement. Discover why “your first episode will suck, and that’s okay,” and how to create endless content ideas that connect locally while growing your practice. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - Law Firm Leadership: Think Big(00:00:33) - Law Firm Podcast(00:02:09) - Legal Marketing in the Comedy Studio(00:05:58) - Getting Back in Front of the Camera(00:11:40) - Lawyers: The Networking Power of Podcasts(00:17:26) - How to Make Content Fun(00:20:56) - How to start a social media page(00:23:03) - Referral Producers: Don't Get Out of Touch With(00:28:43) - Local Businesses on XYZ Law Firm Podcast(00:31:52) - 5 Tips for Becoming a Fantasy Football Champion(00:33:22) - How to Reach Out to Leduc Entertainment

    36 min

  8. 12/11/2025

    Why Lawyers Struggle With Business Development

    In today’s episode of the Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with legal business development expert Steve Fretzin to break down the real reasons law firms struggle with growth — and the simple shifts that can transform your pipeline, profitability, and client quality. Steve dives into his sales-free selling approach, revealing why most attorneys jump into pitching too fast, fail to qualify effectively, and overlook the deeper business issues holding them back. From intake breakdowns to bad client fit, outdated marketing assumptions, and lack of consistent networking, Steve and Kevin show law firm owners how to regain control and build a healthier, more scalable practice. You’ll learn how to ask better questions, diagnose problems before offering solutions, avoid time-wasters, say “no” sooner, and create a prospect pipeline that lets you attract the clients you want — not the ones you’re stuck with. Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit. Chapters (00:00:00) - Management Partners Podcast(00:03:21) - The Art of Business Development(00:07:23) - How to Get Out of a Contract With a Law Firm(00:08:48) - How to Approach a Client about a PPC Problem(00:14:23) - How to Get Out of a Limbo(00:19:59) - On Business and the Podcast(00:21:50) - Lawyers Need Business Development(00:26:43) - The Importance of Willingness and Ability(00:30:19) - How to Win with a Reasonable Price(00:32:53) - How to Sell Law Firms to Your Lawyers(00:37:30) - Business Development, Part 2(00:37:47) - How to grow your firm with social media(00:39:06) - Jimmy Kimmel on Collaborating With People

    40 min
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By tuning in to the leading business podcast for lawyers, you can discover how lawyer entrepreneurs are filling their case pipeline while growing their firms in the process. Kevin Daisey interviews today’s top law firm owners, managing partners, and legal experts who share what they’re doing to exponentially grow their law firm practices. We tackle your most pressing questions about leadership, operations, intake, finance, processes, sales, marketing, culture, and much more. The Managing Partners Podcast is hosted by Array Digital, the thought leader in law firm digital marketing. Subscribe for the latest legal marketing insights! arraydigital.com

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